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You're right, I think the tranny makes the car lunge forward a bit, but it comes right back to where you left it, so I think the brakes are doing their job, but with a forward motion from the transmission at times. You can test it by putting the car in neutral and applying the brakes on a hill, they definitely work. I usually try to put the car in park, then let off the brake to let the car come to full rest, then apply brakes, no lunge forward when I do that.