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      01-18-2018, 08:49 AM   #70
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$2000 a month (Cayman, Boxster, Macan, Cayenne)
$3000 a month (+ 911 and Panamera)

$2000 a month for BMW M2, BMW 3/4, BMW M5, BMW M8, BMW X5M, BMW X6M?
Sign me up!

the membership from passportporsche seems like a posh and very expensive version of Zipcar. Now the manufacturers want to get in on the action. This concept is nothing new, I saw like hundreds of BMWs parked Frankfurt/Munich that had some sort of BMW car share stickers.

Haha for $2K/ month I should start a car sharing service too. It'll only have BMW M2/M3/M4 with manuals and only base models, you know, for weight reduction (not cost cutting). Only requirement is prepay 50 months in advance and you can keep the car at the end, free of charge.


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BMW is already offering maintenance, so adding insurance is not a big deal...but how they are going to manage the differences between a good and bad driver, with frequent accidents vs none, daily driving vs track driving...anyway the only looser will be the customer...these days people will be ending by knowing only one thing to do in their life...paying
For this program BMW picks you, not vice versa. They'll invite or market this to those with a low insurance risk and who already change cars every year.
There will be a fine print, only 0.001 unicorn applicant's will qualify, everyone else will be denied or offered a much higher rate for this pilot program.
Thanks for this. I didn't have time to to read the fine print for the Porsche plan.

Personally , I tend to buy to own whether I buy used or new as I have a " particular set of skills" that I want from my vehicles, so I'm definitely not a candidate for such a program.

I agree that the bmw program likely won't stray too far from the zipcar and Porsche model just as Enterprise doesn't sell rental cars much differently than Hertz.

Based on that, I'm sure that MGM135is is probably already out also, even if awarded unicorn status, since he doesn't like the mere idea of being grouped with other unicorns. EDIT- Speaking additionally on the insurance side... When speaking of spread of risk... this is referring to the MACRO level of understanding that having ALL people insured, actually REDUCES the cost of insurance for ALL people that have insurance - ( a known fact). Meanwhile, perhaps unbeknownst to many, insurance companies ALREADY place their policyholders in groups that are more similar. There are age groups, vehicle groups by engine size, matrices based on availability of parts, matrices on theft ratios, zip code, weather pattern, loss history, etc. The combinations of these are so varied that there are people that get paid to do this for a living. They are called actuaries. It's not like insurance take a bunch of money and throw it into the same pot to pay for claims. Insurers even separate large groups of clients into preferred risk, normal risk, and assigned risk categories, among many. Names such as Mutual, County Mutual, State and County Mutual, Casualty, Fire and Casualty etc are names that are used for these separate pools that insurance companies separate drivers into on a larger level as well. You will know when you've reached unicorn status when your insurance company issues a policy to you with LLOYD'S as the company name.

The same is true of course when it comes to health insurance. One of the problems with insurance in the united states is the politicizing of insurance which creates a lack of understanding of how complex the industry is. Health Insurance companies are literally lobbying to prevent a national health care system, which in turn allows them to charge higher premiums due to the costs from so many people being UNINSURED. A rising tide raises all boats. Meanwhile, auto insurance and home/renters insurance are compulsory and we all for the most part, understand why.

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