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      04-20-2017, 06:15 PM   #34
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Dude, you're not hearing me. You needed to demonstrate to the dealer that you were serious. If you didn't feel like doing it through appearance, then do it through words and actions. At least try to do a little convincing, man: something like "I would like to test drive a Raptor, if one's available. I really want to add it to the stable (then point to the M4)." If the salespeople don't react, go to another dealer and try again.

Just based on your posts, your general attitude screams "I make bank, and you should know that by telepathy and respect my bank!". I deal with this type every day; the city I live in is full of this kind of person. (Hell: people in Big D have this attitude even when they don't have bank.) Having money doesn't matter a whit to a Ford dealer. Demonstrating that you're serious does.

My point about suits has nothing to do with the cost of what a person dresses in to make a purchase. It has everything to do with how serious a person is taking the purchase in the eyes of the person who controls access to the purchase. At its most basic: Tailoring shows that you care; OTR RTW (off-the-rack ready-to-wear) shows that you don't. zx10guy , that example, though skewed because of the presence of your wife in business clothing, actually proves my point: the minute you proved you were serious, the salesman changed his demeanor. Would the salesman's demeanor have been more appropriate earlier if you were dressed in slacks, or selvedge jeans, or even decent jogger pants? Almost absolutely, if the salesman knows his stuff. (That point is exclusive of the salesman not knowing his stuff, obviously ... and to be honest, that likelihood is greater at Mazda and Ford dealerships.)

And I'm sorry: the point about criminals in suits and slubbies as big spenders has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. You're simply trying to get in the door of a Raptor or GT350, not taking something off the rack. Nice try, but you're clutching at straws.



Now: can we get this thread back on topic, please?
I understand where you're coming from. Dealerships get people all the time walking in just to kill time. But I believe part of the sales process is to ask the key questions to the customer to determine seriousness. I walked in, told them I'm thinking about trading in my BMW for a raptor or GT350 but wanted to get a feel for both vehicles before I make a decision. They said they don't allow test drives until AFTER the purchase.
Just speculating BUT... how often do you think they get someone cross shopping those two? You may very well have use for either but that's just a really, really weird combo. It's not like you had the M4 and went to a Benz dealer and asked to drive a C43 and C63 coupe as a replacement which would be a perfectly logical thing to do. Raptor and Mustang, aside from both being animal names, have literally nothing in common. Knowing nothing else about your car needs you've gotta admit that just looks like someone coming in to drive the new expensive stuff and have fun.
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