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      12-16-2017, 11:57 AM   #48
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This is a great somewhat comprehensive list.

I need to go drive it again, but I think the F-Type S/C V6 6MT may be up there with the best despite it being a little on the heavy side. I also love the new Camaro, but it's too commonplace. Is it just me, or is the new camaro smaller than the mustang gt350? Mustang was big to begin with and has gotten relatively enormous where it feels like Chevy has been shrinking the Camaro with each successive generation.
I rented one for a weekend a few weekends ago and my completed 2SS 1LE should be arriving any week now.

Inside, the camaro is definitely smaller than the last generation. It's not terribly smaller, but you notice the seats are closer, the doors and other stuff seems closer, etc. The last one was still snug, but you felt like you were inside a pretty large car. The newest one is a little smaller inside. The new chassis (for the camaro) IS smaller than the outgoing one. It's also not a huge change in interior size, but I notice it.

Obviously, the mustang has better visibility inside and a more "upright" cabin, that's the price you pay for the camaro height/looks. That right there makes the mustang feel a lot more open.

Outside, it seems as wide as ever, it's supposedly a bit smaller overall, it's a few hundred lbs lighter, but it hides that all outside IMO.

Trunk opening seems even smaller, one of the compromises to get such a stiff body without resorting to heavier reinforcement or more exotic materials I'd imagine (has a lot of aluminum suspension parts though).

The last generation was a big car that handled pretty well (especially considering it's pedigree and the history of american cars). The new one doesn't shrink much and increases the handling significantly, allowing the SS 1LE to match the outgoing $75K Z/28, for about 35K less (if you get a 1SS 1LE). The old Z/28 will keep going over longer courses a bit better, but sacrifices a lot more interior options and ride quality as part of the deal. The new ZL1 kicks it out of the court and the ZL1 1LE takes over where that old Z/28 left off, running down 911 GT3s all over the place.
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