X5M Razor Key Retrofit

Sedan_Clan · 12-08-2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanWRT

Guys my buddy can do it for all of you at little or no cost, no problem. But as someone mentioned earlier, the OEM key is not cheap, approximate 1800 RMB (close to 300 USD) sourced from my local dealer. Plus international shipping, you'll be looking at 300+ USD for the job.

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Originally Posted by jpics80

I need this in my life!

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Originally Posted by TucErDoc

I'd also love one if there is an easy way to make it happen

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Originally Posted by BishUK

Yes please

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Originally Posted by Vapeconj

I'm def in if this is possible. Where'd you buy an X5M key. I specifically really like the one you got done best.

Thanks this is pretty cool. Let us know if possible id be down for sure

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Originally Posted by gmzanatta

1,000,000X this!!!

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Originally Posted by ///MIKE M

I want one too!!

The bottom one is the one that I just got with my X1. It's such a better looking key compared to my M2 one.

Group buy anyone?!

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Originally Posted by mrcheezle19

So if i bought a key could your buddy do this for me too?

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Originally Posted by Norcalmav23

Yah... is your buddy interested in making more of these? Ship 1 key and get it done.

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Originally Posted by Joaozao

I want one!

I'm in. Shoot us info.

ice31 · 12-08-2016, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rouxeny

I think you should transplant the M2 key electronics into a Ferrari key fob.

To avoid embarrassment.

jzmundy · 12-08-2016, 01:16 PM

Just as a data point, my X5 keys (produced Dec 2015) have the hole

wdeerfield · 12-08-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRob

Honestly, I don't go around showing my ridiculously, annoyingly big key fob to anybody. Who the hell would care?

I wish BMW would make the damn things MUCH smaller - I hate carrying needlessly bulky things in my pockets.

I just wish I could start the dang car with only the detachable, mechanical key. If I could, I'd just carry that around with me. -scr

have you seen the size of the G30 tablet, i mean key? thats only going to trickle down to the rest of the models with the m3/4 being first on their list to get it.

RPiM5 · 12-08-2016, 01:35 PM

Very adventurous. Love the result. Glad it worked out.

NightStalker · 12-08-2016, 01:55 PM

Will the chip swap work from e90/e92 keyfob? I have a e92 comfort access keyfob. If so I'm down to get the F15 style keyfob.

Daftasabrush · 12-08-2016, 02:21 PM

So I too was going to attempt this but I knocked a component off the board of the new remote while breaking into it.

It was a knock off one from China, but after dismantling it, I'm finding it difficult to believe it isn't actually genuine. There are too many fine details inside to make me think this is some dodgy Chinese copy.

This key was meant to be for an X5 at 434MHz but the circuit inside is completely differently aligned to the one in the OP's photos.

Ghetto2315 · 12-08-2016, 02:51 PM

Now if only I could retrofit my i8 key to this

chris719 · 12-08-2016, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Daftasabrush

So I too was going to attempt this but I knocked a component off the board of the new remote while breaking into it.

It was a knock off one from China, but after dismantling it, I'm finding it difficult to believe it isn't actually genuine. There are too many fine details inside to make me think this is some dodgy Chinese copy.

This key was meant to be for an X5 at 434MHz but the circuit inside is completely differently aligned to the one in the OP's photos.

What component did you knock off? If you can circle it for me on the pic of the PCB I may be able to point you to a replacement.

Igor_M5 · 12-08-2016, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chris719

What component did you knock off? If you can circle it for me on the pic of the PCB I may be able to point you to a replacement.

You can see 2 of the resistors on the right side of the driver profile chip got messed up. Shouldn't be hard to fix that unless he damaged the pad.

This is so awesome. I've been tinkering with this idea about a year ago, ripped apart several BMW keys, then abandoned the idea after seeing how different the PCB boards are in size.

Daftasabrush · 12-08-2016, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Igor_M5

You can see 2 of the resistors on the right side of the driver profile chip got messed up. Shouldn't be hard to fix that unless he damaged the pad.

This is so awesome. I've been tinkering with this idea about a year ago, ripped apart several BMW keys, then abandoned the idea after seeing how different the PCB boards are in size.

It's one component, not two but I have no way of knowing if it's a capacitor or resistor.

Arcades · 12-08-2016, 03:29 PM

Woah great job~

cruisingdownthestreet · 12-08-2016, 03:31 PM

that marina blue! i wonder if it looks good on a z4 without the upgrade body kit.......

and that key fob!

ilya335 · 12-08-2016, 03:44 PM

What kind of parties are you attending?

chris719 · 12-08-2016, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Daftasabrush

It's one component, not two but I have no way of knowing if it's a capacitor or resistor.

It's a decoupling capacitor from DVCC to DGND. It's probably 0.1uF. I can't tell exactly the size but I think it's 0402 because the chip package is 5mm long per side in the datasheet.

Try this:

http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...8-1-ND/4380283

The PCB layout and soldering looks somewhat poor, it might be a clone/knockoff.

P1 · 12-08-2016, 04:08 PM

"I finally have a key that I feel comfortable to show my friends in a party"

Are you referring to a high school party?

SkeezyLP · 12-08-2016, 05:02 PM

What a pointless endeavour. Best of luck at your next party, fingers crossed your new key gives you the social skills you're lacking.

RoosterRoost · 12-08-2016, 05:22 PM

TBH all of you guys commenting on him saying he's comfortable with showing his keys to his friends are annoying it's clearly an expression.. so focused on a part of a post that doesn't matter, nonetheless I'm in on getting this done PM a price for you to take care of it all

chris719 · 12-08-2016, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Daftasabrush

It's one component, not two but I have no way of knowing if it's a capacitor or resistor.

I am not sure this swap will work if your original key has an NXP chip on it. This chip is an Atmel ATA5833 and I couldn't read the part number on the NXP chip in the OP. It's possible they are not pin-for-pin compatible. If you can read the part number of the NXP chip I can check though.

ano0oj · 12-08-2016, 05:27 PM

Kind of unbelievable that BMW would give that key for an M car. I hope they give the razor style key for M3 and up??
Would be a bummer to get the bulky key if I get an M3 vs my key with my current X5

JB M4 · 12-08-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

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Originally Posted by SeanWRT

Guys my buddy can do it for all of you at little or no cost, no problem. But as someone mentioned earlier, the OEM key is not cheap, approximate 1800 RMB (close to 300 USD) sourced from my local dealer. Plus international shipping, you'll be looking at 300+ USD for the job.

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Originally Posted by jpics80

I need this in my life!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TucErDoc

I'd also love one if there is an easy way to make it happen

Quote:

Originally Posted by BishUK

Yes please

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapeconj

I'm def in if this is possible. Where'd you buy an X5M key. I specifically really like the one you got done best.

Thanks this is pretty cool. Let us know if possible id be down for sure

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmzanatta

1,000,000X this!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///MIKE M

I want one too!!

The bottom one is the one that I just got with my X1. It's such a better looking key compared to my M2 one.

Group buy anyone?!

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Originally Posted by mrcheezle19

So if i bought a key could your buddy do this for me too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcalmav23

Yah... is your buddy interested in making more of these? Ship 1 key and get it done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joaozao

I want one!

I'm in. Shoot us info.

I'm in too

The-Traveler · 12-08-2016, 05:46 PM

I want my E92 M3 to have this key. Will it work? I have Comfort Access, but my key has a battery and I don't see one in these. Am I wrong?

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Daftasabrush Fool 1813 Rep 3,542 Posts Drives: F31 340i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: England iTrader: (0)	So I too was going to attempt this but I knocked a component off the board of the new remote while breaking into it. It was a knock off one from China, but after dismantling it, I'm finding it difficult to believe it isn't actually genuine. There are too many fine details inside to make me think this is some dodgy Chinese copy. This key was meant to be for an X5 at 434MHz but the circuit inside is completely differently aligned to the one in the OP's photos. Attached Images
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