Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[King_Leonard]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Don't fall for the PHEV hype – go battery EV or go home
05/05/2024
You’ve probably seen the headlines: battery EV sales are slowing down, and PHEV (plug-in hybrid electric vehicle) sales are hot; the DC fast charging infrastructure isn’t good enough for road trips, so you should drive a PHEV; battery EVs aren’t ready for prime time, but PHEV are the best of both worlds. I’m here to tell you that it’s all nonsense. Battery EVs are better today than ever, while PHEVs are full of compromises.
The inconvenient truth is that at the core, PHEVs are still basically gas cars. Sure, they also include a small EV drivetrain, but they are based on the same platform as their hybrid and gasoline twins, with the same packaging and safety compromises. So, unlike most battery EVs, which are built on a bespoke platform, PHEVs don’t have a frunk (front trunk), or a flat floor, or anywhere near the same amount of interior space.
Another important thing to consider is that you must be able to charge PHEVs at home (or at work) to make them worthwhile. If you never (or rarely) plug your PHEV into a power outlet to charge it, you’re just basically driving around in a heavier-than-normal hybrid with worse fuel efficiency than a regular hybrid.
Even a Nissan Leaf with just 150 miles of range will get the job done, and you won’t be wasting electricity to lug around a heavy ICE (internal combustion engine), gas tank, muffler, and related paraphernalia.
So, forget PHEVs – they aren’t the answer. Battery EVs are viable today, and the sooner we all get on board, the better. It’s time to commit! Go battery EV or go home.
https://www.techradar.com/vehicle-te...-ev-or-go-home

I'm pretty sure I don't agree with this author on too much but I do think she makes valid points. PHEVs offer all the complications and cost with little added benefits of lower maintenance, lower cost.

This lady thinks lugging around a 2 ton EV is energy efficient.
The main advantage of a hybrid is that you will never have range anxiety and better mpg than a pure ICE vehicle.

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

UK is hugely over populated and is getting to be one of the highest taxed places in the world, we need this investment (taxing the legal populate even more) for EV charging like a hole in the head.

If done properly it should raise money long term - after all they'll be selling something

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

So, I’ll just pose this question again. I have yet to see it addressed. What would be your plan for charging if you lived in a vintage apartment/condominium building in Chicago and you only had street parking and you parked in a different place every time you drove your car? My guesstimation is this applies to at least 50% of the cars in the city of Chicago.

Here is the ugly and dangerous solutions nobody want to talk about it All they care is telling you EV will save and make our earth green.

[XutvJet]

Drove past a KIA dealer in KC yesterday and the number of EV9s on the lots was staggering. Must have been 40 of them. All the dealer lots in the area, minus Toyota, were overflowing with vehicles, even the BMW dealer.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

In places that actually get cold, that size/length cord will keep the battery warm and that's about it. Walk out in the morning and realize you can't actually get to work.

I bet this will be the next generation use for excuse not going to work

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

Drove past a KIA dealer in KC yesterday and the number of EV9s on the lots was staggering.

I'm seeing more KIA EV's on the road around here than I'm seeing Tesla's. Dam near got back up over by one at the post office last week, It was so windy the insipid electric hum was masked and it was a case of oblivious driver.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Just caught up on my news watching and you guys are so screwed. At least we have the availability of concealed carry,

It all comes down to the haves and have nots, carrying a concealed weapon is another argument until you meet two or three
I was referring to that London vo te.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Here is the ugly and dangerous solutions nobody want to talk about it All they care is telling you EV will save and make our earth green.

I know some EV owners in Toronto were doing this and then were told it wasn't allowed. The other issue caused by this is you get home from work and want to plug in out front of your house but someone else is already parked there.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Here is the ugly and dangerous solutions nobody want to talk about it All they care is telling you EV will save and make our earth green.

This is what happens when folk take things into their own hands and can cause injury or worse to pedestrians, those in wheelchairs and of course blind people.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

This is what happens when folk take things into their own hands and can cause injury or worse to pedestrians, those in wheelchairs and of course blind people.

None of that matters when you're so self righteous because you're saving the planet.

[gonzo]

Sopranos International doesn't give two shites about no wheelchairs.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

This is what happens when folk take things into their own hands and can cause injury or worse to pedestrians, those in wheelchairs and of course blind people.

Better than truck drivers backing in till their wheel hits the stop and blocking the sidewalk with 5' of truck hanging over.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Here is the ugly and dangerous solutions nobody want to talk about it All they care is telling you EV will save and make our earth green.

So many blind and/or elderly people will die because of that. It is just another way that the green agenda destroy our most vulnerable.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by RM7

Better than truck drivers backing in till their wheel hits the stop and blocking the sidewalk with 5' of truck hanging over.

Had a lorry double parked coming from Costco today and had to brake and stop as he opened his high door to get out without looking, the filthy pos.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by gblansten

So many blind and/or elderly people will die because of that. It is just another way that the green agenda destroy our most vulnerable.

I can't help thinking you're being a trifle cynical with that

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I can't help thinking you're being a trifle cynical with that

I think we are facing human losses worse than WW2 due to EVs. I just hope that civilization does not completely collapse back to a new dark age.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I think we are facing human losses worse than WW2 due to EVs. I just hope that civilization does not completely collapse back to a new dark age.

I'll think about giving you the benefit of the doubt at least

[RM7]

Just more of the backside cost of oil. Who pays? We pay:

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/20...aking-methane/

[M5Rick]

Taycan EV is scrap value?! ie.£383.

Car dealerships have to sell 1 in 5 vehicles which are EV's otherwise they will be fined by the gubment, this is putting car dealerships out of business.
Car journalist Quentin Wilson has said EV's are a good buy and will save the motorist money, MacMaster has proved that Wilson is talking out of his oversize battery to a gullible public.

[baron95]

Western governments will keep pushing EV light vehicle adoption. Out of a barrel of oil there is only a small adjustment that can be made in the proportion of gasoline and heavier fuels (JetA, Diesel, bunker fuel for ships, etc).

Result is that demand for gasoline will keep falling faster than the overall demand for other fuels in a barrel of oil. As that continues and accelerates, the market price of gasoline will trend lower. At the extreme it can even be negative at times - i.e. refiners will have to pay people to take the excess fuel.

In the US diesel and gasoline have historical been about the same price per gallon give or take at the pump. Now there is a $1+ difference in most places already.

So, owning a high power gasoline car is looking increasingly attractive in the future.

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Here is the ugly and dangerous solutions nobody want to talk about it All they care is telling you EV will save and make our earth green.

In the local paper was council trialling these:



https://www.kerbocharge.com/ - basically a channel in path, with "lid" seal which you can insert/remove cable and leave flat surface to walk on. Sounds good (and much better than pictures) - however I'd worry about life of them

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I think we are facing human losses worse than WW2 due to EVs. I just hope that civilization does not completely collapse back to a new dark age.

When states can issue speeding citations and claim the citation is a "non-moving" violation (like a parking ticket), pretty much all hope is lost. Complete and utter Orwellian 1984 nonsense. Along with an utter lack of understanding of Physics, YET we are supposed to "BELIEVE THE SCIENCE" of globalwarmingclimatechange or be declared a climate heretic.