2020-202x Toyota Supra

[strohw]

I plan on upgrading my 987.2 this summer and I keep coming back to this car. I'm looking at 981s, 982 base and c4 but the more I watch videos on this car the more I like it. You can also pickup a used 2020 premium for 5k less than the other cars I mentioned with just a few thousand miles on it. Compared to around 30-35k miles on the other models I mentioned.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by strohw

I plan on upgrading my 987.2 this summer and I keep coming back to this car. I'm looking at 981s, 982 base and c4 but the more I watch videos on this car the more I like it. You can also pickup a used 2020 premium for 5k less than the other cars I mentioned with just a few thousand miles on it. Compared to around 30-35k miles on the other models I mentioned.

I was looking at a 981 GTS as a track car, and the Supra is impressing me more and more especially for the price. My only gripe is no manual.

[supra93]

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by jmg

I was looking at a 981 GTS as a track car, and the Supra is impressing me more and more especially for the price. My only gripe is no manual.

Honestly i do not have the numbers but it has to be way cheaper than a Cayman to track and perform just as well no? Porsche consumables would be eye watering.

[strohw]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Honestly i do not have the numbers but it has to be way cheaper than a Cayman to track and perform just as well no? Porsche consumables would be eye watering.

I don't think the consumables are that different in price but it would depend on what you're grouping into that. However, just the difference in base cars alone is 18-20k which buys a lot of mods/track time.

[supra93]

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by strohw

I don't think the consumables are that different in price but it would depend on what you're grouping into that. However, just the difference in base cars alone is 18-20k which buys a lot of mods/track time.

Set of pads and rotors has gotta be double with Porsche.

[strohw]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Set of pads and rotors has gotta be double with Porsche.

For the track the pricing is pretty similar. Performance pads run about the same price for both vehicles and big brake kits run about the same price for both vehicles. Upgraded rotors by themselves are a bit cheaper for the Supra it looks like though. Brake fluid is obviously the same. In regards to street rotor/pads, I'm not sure for the Supra but I do know you can get a full set of rotor and pads for a 987/981 for about $500 with decent pads.

Hard part pricing seems to definitely be cheaper on the Supra. Just looking at various suspension components like adjustable LCA is half the cost of a 981.

[Alfisti]

How can you get a set of Porsche rotors and pads for $500? Our X3 was $750 after exhaustive shopping. Just bigger everything due to heavier vehicle?

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

How can you get a set of Porsche rotors and pads for $500? Our X3 was $750 after exhaustive shopping. Just bigger everything due to heavier vehicle?

That's basically how much I paid for the Z4M ZCP rotors, and I ran OEM...
I had a quick look on rock auto, and I can do front and rear for the wife's X5, with shipping and tax comes to just north of $500 CAD, ditto for the X3.

[strohw]

So, I talked to my wife about this car over the weekend and I think there is a very high chance I'm going to buy a used 2020. Based off reviews and videos I think it fits what I'm looking for the best but I still need to test drive one to make sure.

Originally Posted by Alfisti

How can you get a set of Porsche rotors and pads for $500? Our X3 was $750 after exhaustive shopping. Just bigger everything due to heavier vehicle?

It cost me $540 to do my 987 brakes and that was with OEM manufacturer pads and Bosch rotors. If you paid OEM pricing on a 987/981 it would be $1000 and on the flip side you could buy some of those cheap generic kits from Power Stop and the like for $350 which includes everything. Those same cheap kits can be bought for your X3 for $300+ off of Amazon and other sources. So if someone wanted to go cheap they could pay half of what you did. Though I also see you're in Canada so I'm not sure on the difference there.

[supra93]

Idk if there are anymore laying around, but people were saying they were picking up remaining new 2020s for as low as $45k.

[strohw]

Originally Posted by supra93

Idk if there are anymore laying around, but people were saying they were picking up remaining new 2020s for as low as $45k.

I won't be buying until early June so I doubt I'd be lucky enough to find any remaining ones on the lot. I did see that after incentives, there are dealers doing 49-50k on 2021 premium models. The issue I have is the closer I get to 50k the more I justify a 52-53k 981s/982.

[supra93]

https://media.toyota.co.uk/2021/03/t...track-edition/

[strohw]

"Hey, you check out the super limited Racetrack edition Supra?"
"No, what they change?"
"It's a different blue."

[supra93]

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by strohw

"Hey, you check out the super limited Racetrack edition Supra?"
"No, what they change?"
"It's a different blue."

Hahaha, and the lower HP engine. Who the hell would want to buy that?

[Kelse92]

I'm gonna chime in here finally now that I have driven one...
Drove a 2020 Supra on track Saturday and an M2 Comp also back-to-back. Supra has softer suspension, terrible visibility, was tight quarters for me (I'm a tiny 5'4" person) having to sit pretty far forward to reach the pedals, and had terrible buffeting at 80+ mph with the windows down... I Much preferred the M2C. Interiors are nearly identical but the Toyota had cheaper feeling steering wheel leather.
With proper coilovers the Supra would probably be better, but stock for stock I would take the M2.

[strohw]

Originally Posted by Kelse92

I'm gonna chime in here finally now that I have driven one...
Drove a 2020 Supra on track Saturday and an M2 Comp also back-to-back. Supra has softer suspension, terrible visibility, was tight quarters for me (I'm a tiny 5'4" person) having to sit pretty far forward to reach the pedals, and had terrible buffeting at 80+ mph with the windows down... I Much preferred the M2C. Interiors are nearly identical but the Toyota had cheaper feeling steering wheel leather.
With proper coilovers the Supra would probably be better, but stock for stock I would take the M2.

That's what most of the reviews say. The Supra out of the box is balanced more for street/track. It has softer suspension and is more comfortable for daily driving than the M2c. Stock for stock there is an 7k difference in new pricing assuming comparable features. Used pricing with similar mileage is about a 5-6k difference.

If we move away from stock vs stock and evaluate on pricing then it works out like this. Drop springs and an adjustable front sway bar can be bought and installed for $1k or less and drastically closes the gap in handling between the two cars. This also minimally effects street comfort. The wind buffeting issue has aftermarket solutions that greatly reduce the effect for under $50. So new price difference with greatly reduced buffeting and very comparable handling is 4-5k used and about 6k new.

[supra93]

[supra93]

So there has been a number of 2021 owners reporting oil burning issues.

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/car...ning-oil.8084/

[jmg]

Ouch. That's sucks. Having two cars in the past dealing with oil consumption it's the most nerve racking experience. I went through this with Subaru and Audi. It's one of the reasons I lease most of my cars now. I just want to drive it and unload it in three years for a new one. I remember people claiming that that's just how new cars are now.

Bullshit. Two F80's with heavy track use and not a single oil consumption problem. WTF is going on here?