Canon XTi....What lense to buy?

Dleo · 10-23-2007, 08:20 PM

I am looking to pick up an XTi after seeing some of the great pictures it takes.

I have found this site and this deal:

http://www.bestpricecameras.com/prod...?prodid=713192

I know it does not include any lens, but there are a few combo deal's on the site. I really know nothing about which package and lens is a good deal, this is my first SLR camera.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Fartpimpson · 10-23-2007, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dleo

I am looking to pick up an XTi after seeing some of the great pictures it takes.

I have found this site and this deal:

http://www.bestpricecameras.com/prod...?prodid=713192

I know it does not include any lens, but there are a few combo deal's on the site. I really know nothing about which package and lens is a good deal, this is my first SLR camera.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Only $269??

Dleo · 10-23-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fartpimpson

Only $269??

its just the body, no lense

just4kickz · 10-23-2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dleo

its just the body, no lense

places are selling those for x2 the price its listed there. im just curious if its legit.

Dleo · 10-23-2007, 08:37 PM

well the listing i found was from this site:

http://www.shopcartusa.com/P_Canon_D.../?ic_campID=98

there seems to be another site selling at that price as well

Dleo · 10-23-2007, 08:38 PM

most review's are pretty positive

Fartpimpson · 10-23-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dleo

most review's are pretty positive

Keep us posted after you ordered.

Dleo · 10-23-2007, 08:44 PM

i will, i just dont know which lens to pick up.

any recommendations?

mds82 · 10-23-2007, 11:35 PM

Dont buy it, its crap.... J/K

This is the lens i ordered, http://www.bestpricecameras.com/prod...?prodid=193448
But read some forums, everyone has reviews on lens

for instance, here is one review http://www.tawbaware.com/canon_lens_test.htm

Etnies · 10-24-2007, 12:22 AM

What kind of photography are you interested in? This will determine what lenses to consider buying. And price limitations are also important.

The EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS is a very good lens.

Dleo · 10-24-2007, 12:24 AM

most photo's i take are of family and friends. i would like to take it on vacation and take a few landscape pictures as well.

i would like to be able to buy camera and lense for under 1k

wrestleSBA · 10-24-2007, 10:31 AM

STOP RIGHT NOW Dleo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just recently finished shopping for a new camera and lens kit myself. First real upgrade into DSRL photography.

I really need to warn you about that site and a few others. I tried to use 3 different sites and they were all actually the same company located out of NY/NJ and they have a definite scam going on. The camera body they try to selld oes not include a camera battery or charge and they are going to try and charge you out the rear for those when they have you call to confirm your order. They are also going to push heavily for you to buy their warranty and they will make "package deals" with it for "better" lenses, memroy cards, etc. If you get them to give you teh specs you will find out they are overcahrging you like crazy and that is where they are making their money. One of the kits I was looking at the first time ended up going from about $800 to over $1150 just with the battery and charger they were trying to pitch. Let me tell you, you can get a better deal shopping retial or the more respected camera sites that have been mentioned here before. Don't buy all the positive reviews they are crap, this was about a three day nightmare for me.

The three websites that I know are all the same company are:

expocameras
bestpricecameras
fotoconnection

Each website wanted me to call to confirm the order and the sales guy I was supposed to talk to had a different name each time, once it was Sam, another Mark, and the third was Tim. Each of the first two times I cancelled the order due to them not being able to ship quick enough and the jacked up price they wanted at the end. The third time I got the same guy and this time he didn't even remember what name he was supposed to be using. After dealing with his pitch and telling him I didn't want any of it he insulted my intelligence by askign what I thought was a "smart deal" for me and asked for about the fifth time if I understood what he was offering me. At this point I was done with it. I told him to cancel my order and revealed to him that this was the third time I had talked to him in 3 days from three different websites. I knew it was the same guy by the heavy accent and how he mis-pronounced my address the same way every day! He then refused to cancel my order and threatened to charge a 10% cancellation fee if I did, hoping to get me to just accept my original order. At this point I asked to speak to the management as I was very tired of his rudeness. He pulled the old trick trying to tell me he was the manager to which I (having worked in sales and being in the tops in the top 10 in the nation for my company for a few years) called BS immediately. He then got really antsy, refusing to let me talk to anyone else and continued to threaten the 10% cancellation fee. This went on for about 10 minutes of me refusing to pay and him telling me they would charge my card anyway and I would settle it with my card company. He then fnially yelled that a 10% fee was charged and hung-up on me. I suspected all of that to be a bluff and so far about a week later it has been as there has been no sign of a charge to my card.

Well that turned in to a long post but I still left out half the details. Let me summarize to say Dleo to stay the hell away from those couple of websites, major rip-offs. You can do much better! Hope that helps. I ended up buying my camera at a local camera shop anyway and was much happier with the experience for what it is worth.

Dleo · 10-24-2007, 10:40 AM

really? i was not aware of the scam's they try to pull.

i appreciate you taking time out of your day typing all that.

after reading your comment's, i will not be buying from that place.

thanks for the heads up!

iwantmye92 · 10-24-2007, 10:56 AM

I agree with wrestleSBA. Those prices look too good to be true and seemed very fishy to me since the best price I found on the XT I bought (not the XTI) was around $550 and included the 18-55mm kit lens. That site smelled fishy as soon as I saw the ridiculously low price they were offering the XTI for.

I see that you're in NYC. Go visit B&H photo. They really know their stuff, and have some of the best prices around.

KL2DC · 10-24-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Etnies

The EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS is a very good lens.

Ouch that's expensive, just looked it up...any recommendations in the $500 range for a versatile lens?

Not blatantly hijacking here, Dleo and I are cool

Dleo · 10-24-2007, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantmye92

I agree with wrestleSBA. Those prices look too good to be true and seemed very fishy to me since the best price I found on the XT I bought (not the XTI) was around $550 and included the 18-55mm kit lens. That site smelled fishy as soon as I saw the ridiculously low price they were offering the XTI for.

I see that you're in NYC. Go visit B&H photo. They really know their stuff, and have some of the best prices around.

was thinking of going to B&H but figured i would price it online first.

guess i will be making a stop there either way

Dleo · 10-24-2007, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KL2DC

Ouch that's expensive, just looked it up...any recommendations in the $500 range for a versatile lens?

Not blatantly hijacking here, Dleo and I are cool

Dleo · 10-24-2007, 01:56 PM

i guess, back to good ol costco

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...lang=en-US&s=1

do you guys think this lense should be sufficant in what i am looking to do?
(photo's of family and friends, few landscape)

KL2DC · 10-24-2007, 02:23 PM

Dleo, I'm looking at Canon's EF-S 17-85 f.4-5.6 IS USM lens....its easily sub $500, looks to be a versatile enough lens with image stabilization (handy for those beginner panning shots).

Fartpimpson · 10-24-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dleo

i guess, back to good ol costco

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...lang=en-US&s=1

do you guys think this lense should be sufficant in what i am looking to do?
(photo's of family and friends, few landscape)

Check this out.

http://search.beachcamera.com/search...&Search=Search

Dleo · 10-24-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fartpimpson

Check this out.

http://search.beachcamera.com/search...&Search=Search

nice, thanks man.

have your ordered from them before?

Etnies · 10-24-2007, 03:08 PM

I've ordered from Beach, they're good to go. B&H is pretty much the best around, but nothing wrong with Beach, either.

Given price constraints you mentioned, check out the EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II lens.

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wrestleSBA Private 16 Rep 61 Posts Drives: 325i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Memphis, TN iTrader: (0)	STOP RIGHT NOW Dleo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just recently finished shopping for a new camera and lens kit myself. First real upgrade into DSRL photography. I really need to warn you about that site and a few others. I tried to use 3 different sites and they were all actually the same company located out of NY/NJ and they have a definite scam going on. The camera body they try to selld oes not include a camera battery or charge and they are going to try and charge you out the rear for those when they have you call to confirm your order. They are also going to push heavily for you to buy their warranty and they will make "package deals" with it for "better" lenses, memroy cards, etc. If you get them to give you teh specs you will find out they are overcahrging you like crazy and that is where they are making their money. One of the kits I was looking at the first time ended up going from about $800 to over $1150 just with the battery and charger they were trying to pitch. Let me tell you, you can get a better deal shopping retial or the more respected camera sites that have been mentioned here before. Don't buy all the positive reviews they are crap, this was about a three day nightmare for me. The three websites that I know are all the same company are: expocameras bestpricecameras fotoconnection Each website wanted me to call to confirm the order and the sales guy I was supposed to talk to had a different name each time, once it was Sam, another Mark, and the third was Tim. Each of the first two times I cancelled the order due to them not being able to ship quick enough and the jacked up price they wanted at the end. The third time I got the same guy and this time he didn't even remember what name he was supposed to be using. After dealing with his pitch and telling him I didn't want any of it he insulted my intelligence by askign what I thought was a "smart deal" for me and asked for about the fifth time if I understood what he was offering me. At this point I was done with it. I told him to cancel my order and revealed to him that this was the third time I had talked to him in 3 days from three different websites. I knew it was the same guy by the heavy accent and how he mis-pronounced my address the same way every day! He then refused to cancel my order and threatened to charge a 10% cancellation fee if I did, hoping to get me to just accept my original order. At this point I asked to speak to the management as I was very tired of his rudeness. He pulled the old trick trying to tell me he was the manager to which I (having worked in sales and being in the tops in the top 10 in the nation for my company for a few years) called BS immediately. He then got really antsy, refusing to let me talk to anyone else and continued to threaten the 10% cancellation fee. This went on for about 10 minutes of me refusing to pay and him telling me they would charge my card anyway and I would settle it with my card company. He then fnially yelled that a 10% fee was charged and hung-up on me. I suspected all of that to be a bluff and so far about a week later it has been as there has been no sign of a charge to my card. Well that turned in to a long post but I still left out half the details. Let me summarize to say Dleo to stay the hell away from those couple of websites, major rip-offs. You can do much better! Hope that helps. I ended up buying my camera at a local camera shop anyway and was much happier with the experience for what it is worth. __________________ 325i 6MT, Mystic Blue, Beige w/ Poplar, Premium Package, Navi, Comfort Access, Xenons, Heated Seats, Satellite Prep (for when I want to go back and add Sirius)
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