|
|
Post Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
03-12-2018, 09:36 AM | #1 |
Colonel
1795
Rep 2,997
Posts |
Daily driver, performance oriented, can drive on soft sand - the struggle
All,
My wife is due in August with our 3rd and we are trading in her '17 Subaru Outback and going with a minivan. (I know) As such, I'm losing my ability to drive the outback on the beach in DE which we like to do alot May-September. DE beaches are interesting. On hot days, there is seriously deep, soft sand that you drive on for long periods of time. Flat mostly, but the entrances are ramped and sometimes single-car wide. So you occasionally get stuck stopping on a slight incline in the sand. I never got stuck in the stock Outback with tires deflated to 15-20 PSI. It's 3600 pounds with great AWD and 8.7" of ground clearance.... .... So now I'm trying to find something I actually want to drive alot on the highway, fun to drive, can do beach duty (i.e. 3 kids + some gear in trunk + ~8+ inches ground clearance + good AWD and tire sidewall). That I won't mind driving in sand, that will be good financially. And it's been a frigging struggle. I'd get a Jeep/Toyota in a heartbeat but they aren't actually enjoyable to drive most of the time. I'm keeping my eye open for an e53 X5 3.0 6-speed manual (2004-2006) but they are super rare and even more so in good condition. I'm even thinking about a 2005-2009 Subaru Outback XT 5mt. I'm just curious if anyone has any recommendations for something that can fill this duty and is actually enjoyable to drive! I'm open to auto trans if they are something like the ZF 8-speed BMW has been using since ~2012, but not interested in older/slower auto trans. Prefer manual. Thanks for any thoughts all! Joe
__________________
AW/Carbonstructure 6MT 2015 M3 picked up 8/22/2014. Stripper except for adaptive suspension. Weighed at 3,450 pounds with 1/4 fuel. 70,000 miles as of February 2020.
|
03-12-2018, 12:23 PM | #3 |
Colonel
1795
Rep 2,997
Posts |
I don't think I was clear enough. This WILL be a 2nd vehicle, but it would still accumulate a fair amount of miles. So I'm searching for something that still rides great, has steering feel, solid braking, etc.
I'm not talking about magazine racing either - just a vehicle that can handle these duties but is actually enjoyable to drive. Too often I find a vehicle can do one thing but it's steering stinks, or it's auto trans stinks, or it's braking is soft, etc.
__________________
AW/Carbonstructure 6MT 2015 M3 picked up 8/22/2014. Stripper except for adaptive suspension. Weighed at 3,450 pounds with 1/4 fuel. 70,000 miles as of February 2020.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-12-2018, 03:37 PM | #4 |
Second Lieutenant
186
Rep 235
Posts |
Pajero evolution?
[IMG]http://www.leisurewheels.co.za/wp-co...olution_01.jpg[/IMG] |
Appreciate
0
|
03-12-2018, 03:37 PM | #5 |
Lieutenant
345
Rep 442
Posts |
Honda Ridgeline? Might be a little snug in the back seats depending on how many car seats you need. My three little ones fit back there without too much trouble, one in a front facing seat, one in a booster, and one in the middle without anything special. Plenty of room in the bed for stuff, a trunk in the way back, AWD, great ride, very quiet, etc.
|
03-12-2018, 03:53 PM | #6 |
Lieutenant
223
Rep 443
Posts |
Toyota Tundra or the 4Runner are both great choices, i believe the tundra comes in manual.
Personally i'd choose the Tundra; the 4Runner feels severely underpowered. |
Appreciate
0
|
03-12-2018, 03:56 PM | #7 |
Rather Ambivalent
380
Rep 755
Posts |
Golf Alltrack, Audi Allroad, Volvo V60 Cross Country, older manual Forester Turbo.
|
Appreciate
1
hooligan_G016430.00 |
03-13-2018, 04:50 AM | #11 |
AutoPilot
97
Rep 87
Posts
Drives: 19 X1,18 M550i,15 X5,14 328d
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Texas
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 2011 Mercedes GL550 [0.00]
2019 BMW X128i [0.00] 2015 X5 XDrive35i [0.00] 2018 M550i [0.00] 2014 328d [0.00] |
New Mini Countryman is interesting & with the right spec can be fun to drive. And you can get a manual or 8sp trans... AWD with decent ground clearance.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-13-2018, 09:40 AM | #13 | |
Second Lieutenant
1124
Rep 265
Posts |
Quote:
OP, what you are looking for probably doesn't exist, the the Macan or Cayenne may get close, but those push the budget. |
|
Appreciate
1
Red Bread4463.00 |
03-13-2018, 02:12 PM | #14 |
1Addict
3233
Rep 7,893
Posts |
What about jeep gc trackhawk, then get a set of wheels and tires for the beach?
__________________
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-13-2018, 09:21 PM | #15 |
Major General
9701
Rep 6,084
Posts |
Why would you opt for a minivan in this crossover-laden market? The entire point of the crossover is so people can have 90% of the practicality of a minivan without the dorky looks.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-13-2018, 09:51 PM | #16 |
General
17278
Rep 18,722
Posts |
I find my Hummer HT3 quite enjoyable to drive.
__________________
A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-14-2018, 02:21 AM | #17 |
Lieutenant General
18663
Rep 14,108
Posts
Drives: G82 M4C X-Drive
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA
|
I raised my kid in a Subaru Forrester. Been off the road many times on hiking trips etc. The Outback is just as capable, I'd just get another one.
__________________
2022 G82///M4 Competition X-Drive - KW-HAS, EBC Bluestuff, Millway Race Camber Plates, Cup2 Connect*, PSI High Flow Midpipe, Lightweight Front Lip, M Perf Flow Through Wing Previous • 2018 F80 ///M3 CS • 2016 F80 ///M3 IG: Raging_G82 |
Appreciate
0
|
03-14-2018, 06:28 AM | #18 |
Emperor
1613
Rep 2,753
Posts |
Sometimes you read a post where you realize you'll never agree with a certain person.
__________________
2005 M3 Coupe, 2004 M3 Wagon, 2001 M5 Sedan, 2008 M5 6MT Sedan, 2012 128i M sport |
03-14-2018, 11:16 AM | #19 |
Enlisted Member
6
Rep 31
Posts |
If you want to stay in the family, the Subaru Ascent looks to be the next logical step up for a bigger family. It's features and price make it very attractive! Should be in dealerships by July.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-14-2018, 02:29 PM | #20 | |
Lieutenant General
18663
Rep 14,108
Posts
Drives: G82 M4C X-Drive
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA
|
Quote:
He was always interesting to talk to, we were in a gun club together and got along well. He kept talking about the militia and protecting himself from the government though. Strange. Always was on the defensive when he wasn't asserting himself with his big Hummer. It's a strange duality. Lot of outward displays of strength to mask underlying paranoia and fear.
__________________
2022 G82///M4 Competition X-Drive - KW-HAS, EBC Bluestuff, Millway Race Camber Plates, Cup2 Connect*, PSI High Flow Midpipe, Lightweight Front Lip, M Perf Flow Through Wing Previous • 2018 F80 ///M3 CS • 2016 F80 ///M3 IG: Raging_G82 |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-14-2018, 07:06 PM | #22 |
1Addict
3233
Rep 7,893
Posts |
Is the new forrester still good? Had an older model outback years ago, loved it. Test drove a new outback recently, really hated it. I mean absolutely hated it. Felt nothing like what it was.
__________________
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|