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      09-12-2017, 01:24 PM   #45
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So if I want to buy an electric car why does it have to not look like a normal car??
Because it's not a normal car . And doesn't cost the same as a normal car.....
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So if I want to buy an electric car why does it have to not look like a normal car??
Because it would be a huge waste. Not needing things like a driveline, transmission, fuel tank, exhaust system etc. requires less space. This will change the look of an efficiently designed EV car vs a "normal car" and when done with an intent and competence to create a beautiful design it changes in a very good way.
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Because it's not a normal car . And doesn't cost the same as a normal car.....
I get what he's saying though...many of the non ICE cars go out of their respective way to look very different.

I think what he's getting at, and I agree, is that they might sell more of these alternative power trains if they didn't look like spaceships. People might support the different tech, but not the different look.
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Disgusting front end made especially nasty looking by those stupid grills.

Why why why must all EVs look like crap.
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      09-12-2017, 03:38 PM   #49
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I totally dig this design, beside the grilles/wheels. I could see my self driving one.
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Because it's not a normal car . And doesn't cost the same as a normal car.....
I get what he's saying though...many of the non ICE cars go out of their respective way to look very different.

I think what he's getting at, and I agree, is that they might sell more of these alternative power trains if they didn't look like spaceships. People might support the different tech, but not the different look.
Exactly. It can look awesome and techy without trying so damn hard. I'll still take a tesla over this.
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I like the look except the front grills. Tone those down to current gen i3 size and I think we have a winner.
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Wow, great looking concept, it makes the F90 looks like yesterdays news.
This should be the inext, looks like a nice start from the HW pov.
Now, let´s have a innovative interior as well BMW.
I guess we all are more or less impressed with this concept, the renders that was leaked was horrible, this is a great start towards the future, as the EV is.
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Because it's not a normal car . And doesn't cost the same as a normal car.....
I get what he's saying though...many of the non ICE cars go out of their respective way to look very different.

I think what he's getting at, and I agree, is that they might sell more of these alternative power trains if they didn't look like spaceships. People might support the different tech, but not the different look.
Yea I get you, being in the business and designing these from the ground up things get lost and the company sometimes feels like they have to look different to get noticed to make a splash to show their investment off as it where. or the customer may look at it and say why the hell does it cost so much otherwise and a very different looking car may justify the cost increase to be able to stand out .


Tesla proved that you don't need to look like a spaceship or a boiled frog to sell.

Part of the i3 I love is the concept behind it and what they did a a whole and materials used. As a designer myself I get what they where trying to do and love it for what it is but it's not your typical BMW both in styling and proportion and the average BMW owner hates it for its looks. Probably because it doesn't jive with their brand philosophy.

Funny thing I noticed is outside the typical BMW customer others find it very cool and strike up conversations all the time wanting to know more about it. So maybe they knew what they where doing.....

This new direction is taking customer feedback and applying it in a very nice future thinking design. Sometimes having a polarizing design can be good and bad but even if bad it gets you noticed and talked about.
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Yea I get you, being in the business and designing these from the ground up things get lost and the company sometimes feels like they have to look different to get noticed to make a splash to show their investment off as it where. or the customer may look at it and say why the hell does it cost so much otherwise and a very different looking car may justify the cost increase to be able to stand out .


Tesla proved that you don't need to look like a spaceship or a boiled frog to sell.

Part of the i3 I love is the concept behind it and what they did a a whole and materials used. As a designer myself I get what they where trying to do and love it for what it is but it's not your typical BMW both in styling and proportion and the average BMW owner hates it for its looks. Probably because it doesn't jive with their brand philosophy.

Funny thing I noticed is outside the typical BMW customer others find it very cool and strike up conversations all the time wanting to know more about it. So maybe they knew what they where doing.....

This new direction is taking customer feedback and applying it in a very nice future thinking design. Sometimes having a polarizing design can be good and bad but even if bad it gets you noticed and talked about.
Very reasonable.

And you're right that BMW is trying to expand their respective base - it's obvious in the last several years. The car was once known for RWD and driving dynamics, and you're hard pressed to find those across the spectrum these days.

I really do like the shape - just not all the trinket-styling if that makes sense. I wonder how cool it would look if the shape were preserved, but more typical or traditional car design cues were utilized. Almost has that 6er GC feel to the shape...
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Hmmm it looks quite a lot like something that Peter Griffin once sketched to me...
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What's with BMW and concept cars, all promise no delivery (this car will be in production after 2021??? Maybe??? Tesla, Mercedes and everyone else will be on their next gen by then). I'm sticking with my M4. Bring on the new AWD system and get me close to 3.0secs flat in the next generation and life will be good.
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I think it looks great, including the rear. The kidney grills, however, are hideous. Honestly, the i3 and i8 grills look better. I think this is in the right direction for electric vehicles. We've been teased with production cars not looking as futuristic as their concepts for decades now. With the i3 and i8, like it or not, they have been pretty close to the futuristic spirit of the concepts (I'm glad they dropped the glass panels, for privacy and practicality'a sake).
I used to say that why don't they make electric cars look like regular cars. They do look like regular cars... of the future.
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I don't think the Tesla looks any less like a spaceship than this one, particularly the inside. I do think BMW is on to something here
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Except for that "stencil" grille, I like the overall stance and flow.
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Because it would be a huge waste. Not needing things like a driveline, transmission, fuel tank, exhaust system etc. requires less space. This will change the look of an efficiently designed EV car vs a "normal car" and when done with an intent and competence to create a beautiful design it changes in a very good way.
i don't mind the interior looking way spaceship control cockpit. just want the exterior to look special (but not like you put a cheap ass bodykit on - same effect in my opinion).
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Well better than the Tesla IMO. Once u take off the bits that won't see production - the weird trapezoidal b-pillar and the funky grille - this thing will kill. And I will buy it.
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I wish they would throw the three series into the future with a bold and beautiful design like this. Stunning all round.
This!!
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So if I want to buy an electric car why does it have to not look like a normal car??
If only 'normal' cars did look like this!!!
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So if I want to buy an electric car why does it have to not look like a normal car??
Because it's not a normal car . And doesn't cost the same as a normal car.....
We are at a point in time where the normal car (ICE ) are becoming more expensive to produce than a standard Battery Electric Vehicle (BEV). Rapid battery prices dropping will eventually lead to a disruption for the entire car industry.
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Looks decent except for the dumb looking kidney grill outline thing. Hope they don't artificially "cripple" the design aesthetics in order to create distance between whatever the entry level version of this will be vs the larger "premium" versions. Wouldn't count on it for a while though, until they need to sell electrics.
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