Switch from Cayman GTS to a Nissan GTR?

Sparco · 11-23-2015, 04:52 PM

M4 has ruined me. Did euro delivery in Sept on a 16 M4 YSB, 19s and manual. Had the time of my life drove 2500 miles all over Europe, 160MPH at times, car was an absolute pleasure.

So the story goes like this, I get home and drive My Cayman GTS that all of a sudden feels very sedate meaning no torque. Now its not like I didn't know this but my god the difference on the street is huge. I test drove a 14 track edition GTR and was completely at a loss for words with how it drove. One thing has led to another where I'm in a position to switch out of the Cayman and into the GTR. I know this is a stupid problem to discuss but would you guys do it? I have the opportunity to build a GT4 but having specced my GTS the way I have, cant help but think its only 20/25% better. I tend to keep cars an average of 12-18 months and enjoy all aspects of them but have been very partial to both BMW and Porsche. I have owned over the last 15 years various models of M3s and 911s, but have seldom ventured away from German brands. I know, stupid dilemma. Your thoughts

DaBean · 11-23-2015, 04:54 PM

1st world problems

Seems like you go through cars very quickly anyway, so just do what your gut tells you. If you make a mistake, you'll move on to the next one in 12 months anyway...

Sparco · 11-23-2015, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBean

1st world problems

Seems like you go through cars very quickly anyway, so just do what your gut tells you. If you make a mistake, you'll move on to the next one in 12 months anyway...

I know this is the dumbest thing to read or even comment on. But, between the pull of the M4 and now the pull of the GTR, am wondering whats godzilla like to own.

cotmfk · 11-23-2015, 05:03 PM

Just do it

DaBean · 11-23-2015, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparco

I know this is the dumbest thing to read or even comment on. But, between the pull of the M4 and now the pull of the GTR, am wondering whats godzilla like to own.

Why don't you keep both

Sparco · 11-23-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBean

Why don't you keep both

Thats the plan. M4 daily driver, GTR, and wifes SLK55AMG

qspring · 11-23-2015, 05:45 PM

My vote is to get the GTR.

redux · 11-23-2015, 05:52 PM

I'd recommend taking a jump at the GTR if you're only looking at a 12-18 month ownership period. The GT-4 will have better resale value, but GTR is an experience that one with the means should sample at least once.

*** I walked away hating it after 4 months, but it was an interesting experiment. ****

IM2C · 11-23-2015, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparco

Did euro delivery in Sept on a 16 M4 YSB, 19s and manual. Had the time of my life drove 2500 miles all over Europe, 160MPH at times, car was an absolute pleasure. So the story goes like this, I get home and drive My Cayman GTS that all of a sudden feels very sedate meaning no torque. Now its not like I didn't know this but my god the difference on the street is huge. I test drove a 14 track edition GTR and was completely at a loss for words with how it drove. One thing has led to another where I'm in a position to switch out of the Cayman and into the GTR. I know this is a stupid problem to discuss but would you guys do it? I have the opportunity to build a GT4 but having specced my GTS the way I have, cant help but think its only 20/25% better. I tend to keep cars an average of 12-18 months and enjoy all aspects of them but have been very partial to both BMW and Porsche. I have owned over the last 15 years various models of M3s and 911s, but have seldom ventured away from German brands. I know, stupid dilemma. Your thoughts

I love the drama. Please continue!

MPerformance211 · 11-23-2015, 06:44 PM

Oh dear god just wait for the Porsche nut swingers to show up here and tell you how delusional you are for 1) feeling that way and 2) even THINKING about selling the Cayman

EfEightyM3 in 3, 2, 1.................he may not show up here but if you post this in the "vs" section just watch what happens.

SROC3 · 11-23-2015, 06:50 PM

GTR. Then GT4.

sgroer · 11-23-2015, 06:54 PM

Had a Gt-4 on the track the other day and it was unbelievable. It's obviously not a comparison to a GTR - two different ways to go fast. Cant go wrong with either, I suspect. I've never even driven a GTR, but I have a 991 GT3 and the GT4 blew my mind.

Sparco · 11-23-2015, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by redux

I'd recommend taking a jump at the GTR if you're only looking at a 12-18 month ownership period. The GT-4 will have better resale value, but GTR is an experience that one with the means should sample at least once.

*** I walked away hating it after 4 months, but it was an interesting experiment. ****

Care to explain why you hated it?

Who's on first · 11-23-2015, 07:44 PM

Can't someone state the obvious?

For the love of, god or whatever, switch it up.

Go for the Accord Sport.

Sparco · 11-23-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MPerformance211

Oh dear god just wait for the Porsche nut swingers to show up here and tell you how delusional you are for 1) feeling that way and 2) even THINKING about selling the Cayman

EfEightyM3 in 3, 2, 1.................he may not show up here but if you post this in the "vs" section just watch what happens.

Not looking to cause a stir with the Porsche crowd. Ultimately, don't track as often as I could as life's gotten in the way. GTR didn't seem to be a bad way to go at this point. One rule I try to stick by is never build the same car in succession.

chillindrdude · 11-23-2015, 07:47 PM

id dump the m4 and cayman gts and buy a pre-owned 991 GT3

imserious · 11-23-2015, 09:13 PM

I would keep the Cayman GTS and replace the M4 with the GTR.

But if you just can't handle not having instant thrust then I guess you have to get rid of the Cayman. It will never feel fast again in that way.

If I could keep multiple cars I'd want them to be more different than similar.

NickyC · 11-23-2015, 09:38 PM

If you want to attract a bunch of men around your car, by all means get the GTR.

beats · 11-23-2015, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by imserious

I would keep the Cayman GTS and replace the M4 with the GTR.

But if you just can't handle not having instant thrust then I guess you have to get rid of the Cayman. It will never feel fast again in that way.

If I could keep multiple cars I'd want them to be more different than similar.

Exactly my thoughts. M4 seems like a mix of the better attributes of both the GTR and the GT4 (although not as good as either IMO).

HOGGLIFE · 11-23-2015, 10:45 PM

I will be happy to solve this dilemma by selling you an Alfa 4C!

Really, the GT-R is incredible. I would go for it.

If you like small cars like your Cayman, check out the 4C though. Quite a machine.

vase330 · 11-24-2015, 12:51 AM

Lead by example. I practice what I preach. Get what you want, regardless of who thinks what. Don't regret or wonder. If I were you am getting that GTR pronto.

I am a BMW guy. Had 6 of the last model 3 series and am stuck on my E92. Funny I can't trade it even for a new 4. There isn't enough there to make me part with it. Truth be told in May 2014 I cross shopped and test drove M4, Posche 911 Carrera 4S ( instant love struck), but I took home the 2014 Range Rover Sport Supercharged. That think turned out to hell on wheels though. That reputation is not entirely unfounded. Worst car I ever had by a mile and that includes my many Past clunkers! 10 month 22 dealer visits and 6500 miles I was so fed up I stopped driving it and wanted it gone at almost any cos. Hated it with a passion. I traded it for 2015.5 Ranve Rover Sport Autobiography that is hands down best car I have ever had. You can hardly believe they came from the same line. I am in love with this thing like I am with the E92. Oh the range will stomp any stock 435 /235 etc etc. and for $1900 I'll soon do a pulley swap and tune take it to 630hp start embarrassing corvettes. My tuned 335 is faster still, but this thing can go foreve in total comfort.

Can you believe I passed on a 911 Carrera 4S for an SUV? Me neither! But I still have no regrets. In fact they cost within a few hundred dollars of each other, so it's not a money thing. The rover does whatitdoes extremely well, and it appealed to me. I did a polling on the Range Rover forum and realized I was no aberration at all. Most of the people with new model Range Rover and another car have.... 335, 535 or 2/1 series.

So no we understand you. There is nothing wrong. You need to stray a little otherwise life would be so boring and predictable. Test drove the M235 liked it a lot. Might trade the 3 for that, but waiting ti see what else peeks my interest. No hurry at all which is good.

djDori_C · 11-24-2015, 01:00 AM

Don't buy the GTR!!! Unless you really want to...
I test drove it... Didn't like the paddles... Just my opinion...

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Sparco Private First Class 70 Rep 116 Posts Drives: GT3 \ Future M2 Comp Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cape Coral, Florida iTrader: (0)	Switch from Cayman GTS to a Nissan GTR? M4 has ruined me. Did euro delivery in Sept on a 16 M4 YSB, 19s and manual. Had the time of my life drove 2500 miles all over Europe, 160MPH at times, car was an absolute pleasure. So the story goes like this, I get home and drive My Cayman GTS that all of a sudden feels very sedate meaning no torque. Now its not like I didn't know this but my god the difference on the street is huge. I test drove a 14 track edition GTR and was completely at a loss for words with how it drove. One thing has led to another where I'm in a position to switch out of the Cayman and into the GTR. I know this is a stupid problem to discuss but would you guys do it? I have the opportunity to build a GT4 but having specced my GTS the way I have, cant help but think its only 20/25% better. I tend to keep cars an average of 12-18 months and enjoy all aspects of them but have been very partial to both BMW and Porsche. I have owned over the last 15 years various models of M3s and 911s, but have seldom ventured away from German brands. I know, stupid dilemma. Your thoughts
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redux WTF does Stage 1 mean? 273 Rep 311 Posts Drives: Bwm and such Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Singapore, Los Angeles, and such iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 1M [9.35]	I'd recommend taking a jump at the GTR if you're only looking at a 12-18 month ownership period. The GT-4 will have better resale value, but GTR is an experience that one with the means should sample at least once. * I walked away hating it after 4 months, but it was an interesting experiment. **
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MPerformance211 Banned 274 Rep 439 Posts Drives: 2013 981 Boxster S; 3 pedals Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: northern hemisphere iTrader: (0)	Oh dear god just wait for the Porsche nut swingers to show up here and tell you how delusional you are for 1) feeling that way and 2) even THINKING about selling the Cayman EfEightyM3 in 3, 2, 1.................he may not show up here but if you post this in the "vs" section just watch what happens.
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sgroer Private First Class 130 Rep 111 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 - YMB Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Roswell, GA iTrader: (0)	Had a Gt-4 on the track the other day and it was unbelievable. It's obviously not a comparison to a GTR - two different ways to go fast. Cant go wrong with either, I suspect. I've never even driven a GTR, but I have a 991 GT3 and the GT4 blew my mind.
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Who's on first Brigadier General 2464 Rep 3,803 Posts Drives: A-10C Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Maryland iTrader: (2)	Can't someone state the obvious? For the love of, god or whatever, switch it up. Go for the Accord Sport.
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imserious Major 412 Rep 1,049 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M3 MR Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (4)	I would keep the Cayman GTS and replace the M4 with the GTR. But if you just can't handle not having instant thrust then I guess you have to get rid of the Cayman. It will never feel fast again in that way. If I could keep multiple cars I'd want them to be more different than similar.
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NickyC Lieutenant General 17480 Rep 10,662 Posts Drives: M4 CS. Former G82, x2 F82, F80 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Jacked out of my mind iTrader: (23)	If you want to attract a bunch of men around your car, by all means get the GTR.
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HOGGLIFE Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 248 Posts Drives: 2011 AW/CR 135 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (5)	I will be happy to solve this dilemma by selling you an Alfa 4C! Really, the GT-R is incredible. I would go for it. If you like small cars like your Cayman, check out the 4C though. Quite a machine.
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11-24-2015, 12:51 AM	#21
vase330 Colonel 102 Rep 2,760 Posts Drives: 19 E63S; 15.5 RangeRover ATB Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, Va iTrader: (1)	Stop wondering what if and just Get the GTR already. Lead by example. I practice what I preach. Get what you want, regardless of who thinks what. Don't regret or wonder. If I were you am getting that GTR pronto. I am a BMW guy. Had 6 of the last model 3 series and am stuck on my E92. Funny I can't trade it even for a new 4. There isn't enough there to make me part with it. Truth be told in May 2014 I cross shopped and test drove M4, Posche 911 Carrera 4S ( instant love struck), but I took home the 2014 Range Rover Sport Supercharged. That think turned out to hell on wheels though. That reputation is not entirely unfounded. Worst car I ever had by a mile and that includes my many Past clunkers! 10 month 22 dealer visits and 6500 miles I was so fed up I stopped driving it and wanted it gone at almost any cos. Hated it with a passion. I traded it for 2015.5 Ranve Rover Sport Autobiography that is hands down best car I have ever had. You can hardly believe they came from the same line. I am in love with this thing like I am with the E92. Oh the range will stomp any stock 435 /235 etc etc. and for $1900 I'll soon do a pulley swap and tune take it to 630hp start embarrassing corvettes. My tuned 335 is faster still, but this thing can go foreve in total comfort. Can you believe I passed on a 911 Carrera 4S for an SUV? Me neither! But I still have no regrets. In fact they cost within a few hundred dollars of each other, so it's not a money thing. The rover does whatitdoes extremely well, and it appealed to me. I did a polling on the Range Rover forum and realized I was no aberration at all. Most of the people with new model Range Rover and another car have.... 335, 535 or 2/1 series. So no we understand you. There is nothing wrong. You need to stray a little otherwise life would be so boring and predictable. Test drove the M235 liked it a lot. Might trade the 3 for that, but waiting ti see what else peeks my interest. No hurry at all which is good. __________________ E92 335 \| Space Gray \| Saddle Brown Dakota \| Dark Burl Trim \| ZPP \| ZSP \| AT \| Idrive \| 6FL \| FBO \| Dinan CAI \| Quaife LSD \| STG3 PROCede. Last edited by vase330; 11-24-2015 at 12:59 AM..
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djDori_C Second Lieutenant 110 Rep 277 Posts Drives: E93 M3 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Toronto Ontario iTrader: (0)	Don't buy the GTR!!! Unless you really want to... I test drove it... Didn't like the paddles... Just my opinion...
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