BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   7Post - 7 Series Forum > BMW 7-Series Forums > (F01) 7-series General Discussions

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-09-2009, 12:27 PM   #1
750_ooomph
New Member
Philippines
6
Rep
10
Posts

Drives: 2004 BMW 730i
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Manila, Philippines

iTrader: (0)

Does the new 7er really handle like this?

I am gonna be an owner of a new F02 7er. When I was watching InsideLine test I was shocked. Click the link below and check it out in the skid pad part (0:35). It has lots of body roll. Is that normal for a car of this size or maybe it did not have Dynamic Drive. It reminds me of muscle cars, lots of power but sucks in corners. Don't tell me its a luxury car, it should not handle very well. Its a BMW! BMWs are luxury cars that handle well but I am not sure about this new 7er.

In the second link is the comparison between the 7er and S-class. The S-class was slightly slower but it was so stable on the skid pad. Why wasn't the 7er stable in the skid pad?

7er track video


7er vs. S-class
Appreciate 0
      06-09-2009, 01:57 PM   #2
SpotM5
Second Lieutenant
SpotM5's Avatar
25
Rep
279
Posts

Drives: 2013 BMW M5
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 750_ooomph View Post
I am gonna be an owner of a new F02 7er. When I was watching InsideLine test I was shocked. Click the link below and check it out in the skid pad part (0:35). It has lots of body roll. Is that normal for a car of this size or maybe it did not have Dynamic Drive. It reminds me of muscle cars, lots of power but sucks in corners. Don't tell me its a luxury car, it should not handle very well. Its a BMW! BMWs are luxury cars that handle well but I am not sure about this new 7er.

In the second link is the comparison between the 7er and S-class. The S-class was slightly slower but it was so stable on the skid pad. Why wasn't the 7er stable in the skid pad?

7er track video


7er vs. S-class
keep in mind that the F01 and F02 are sporty luxury cars. They don't have skidpad numbers in the 90's. They handle sportingly and as any bmw, give the driver confidence in the car's ability. having said that, you don't buy these cars to take them to the track. try an m3 or my m5 or an m6.

for whatever reason, some people think the new 7 is an M7 - it is not. it is simply a large sedan that handles great (as compared to others in it's class) with excellent power and technolgies and styling.
Appreciate 0
      06-09-2009, 02:10 PM   #3
Master Deep
Captain
40
Rep
869
Posts

Drives: 06 325xi
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2006 325xi  [0.00]
I've seen this video before. The car doesn't have the Sport Package. And it doesn't have the the Active Body Control to control the lean. The S550 has ABC which is why it stays flat.

I have no idea why they tested the least sportiest 7er setup with the sportiest benz setup. But that's what it is.
Appreciate 0
      06-09-2009, 02:26 PM   #4
SpotM5
Second Lieutenant
SpotM5's Avatar
25
Rep
279
Posts

Drives: 2013 BMW M5
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Deep View Post
I've seen this video before. The car doesn't have the Sport Package. And it doesn't have the the Active Body Control to control the lean. The S550 has ABC which is why it stays flat.

I have no idea why they tested the least sportiest 7er setup with the sportiest benz setup. But that's what it is.
maybe because Mercedes spent more money advertising w them last year?
Appreciate 0
      06-09-2009, 03:53 PM   #5
Master Deep
Captain
40
Rep
869
Posts

Drives: 06 325xi
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2006 325xi  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpotM5 View Post
maybe because Mercedes spent more money advertising w them last year?
lol eh its fine. BMW spends more with all the major American car magazines. Or are BMW's just so amazing that they win 99.9% of car tests they are put in?
Appreciate 0
      06-09-2009, 07:55 PM   #6
schnell330i
Private First Class
4
Rep
110
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: birmingham

iTrader: (0)

yeah like said above, the 750 definitely didnt have the anti roll stabilization like the merc did. Ive driven the s550 with abc before and thought that it handled very unnaturally (in a turn, it boosts up the outside part of the car and hunkers down the inside, which I think feels really weird; you can clearly see this in the slalom part of the video in the first post, and they commented a bit on it as being "counter-intuitive)

Here is edmunds testing a sports pack, ARS equipped 750i (notice how there is much less roll, yet it still responds to the lateral forces naturally)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqSc-encjNY

gotta love the quote "the 750 has S63 AMG performance for less than S550 price"
Appreciate 0
      06-09-2009, 08:55 PM   #7
xDrive50i
Lieutenant Colonel
xDrive50i's Avatar
Canada
51
Rep
1,754
Posts

Drives: '09 750i individual
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: GTA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by schnell330i View Post
yeah like said above, the 750 definitely didnt have the anti roll stabilization like the merc did. Ive driven the s550 with abc before and thought that it handled very unnaturally (in a turn, it boosts up the outside part of the car and hunkers down the inside, which I think feels really weird; you can clearly see this in the slalom part of the video in the first post, and they commented a bit on it as being "counter-intuitive)

Here is edmunds testing a sports pack, ARS equipped 750i (notice how there is much less roll, yet it still responds to the lateral forces naturally)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqSc-encjNY

gotta love the quote "the 750 has S63 AMG performance for less than S550 price"
Hmmm, interesting. The same guys tested the 750i and 750Li (obviously at different times) and got some rather strange results. What I mean is that they clocked the 750i going 0-60mph in 5.2 seconds (as per the link that schnell330i posted) and the 750Li doing this in 4.8 seconds (as per the link that 750_ooomph posted)?!?

The 750i should have come in with lower numbers. I guess the test times are due to the way they tested the cars and probably wasn't done the exact same way. If I recall correctly, in the video clip where they tested the 750Li they mentioned that they turned traction control off and that they manually shifted through the gears to get that time. So I assume that for the 750i they let the automatic do the shifting for them as that time is pretty much what BMW quoted for this model.

Nonetheless, still amazing numbers considering the size and weight of these cars!
__________________
2009 750i individual | Citrin Black Metallic | Platinum Merino Extended Leather | BMW Individual Composition Package (includes Sport Package) | Dynamic Handling Package | Multimedia Package | Technology Package | Executive Package
http://www.7post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234432
Appreciate 0
      06-09-2009, 09:42 PM   #8
SpotM5
Second Lieutenant
SpotM5's Avatar
25
Rep
279
Posts

Drives: 2013 BMW M5
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by xDrive50i View Post
Hmmm, interesting. The same guys tested the 750i and 750Li (obviously at different times) and got some rather strange results. What I mean is that they clocked the 750i going 0-60mph in 5.2 seconds (as per the link that schnell330i posted) and the 750Li doing this in 4.8 seconds (as per the link that 750_ooomph posted)?!?

The 750i should have come in with lower numbers. I guess the test times are due to the way they tested the cars and probably wasn't done the exact same way. If I recall correctly, in the video clip where they tested the 750Li they mentioned that they turned traction control off and that they manually shifted through the gears to get that time. So I assume that for the 750i they let the automatic do the shifting for them as that time is pretty much what BMW quoted for this model.

Nonetheless, still amazing numbers considering the size and weight of these cars!
my 750i seems to be really quick. I would imagine that with the car in DS, sport plus, only me in the car - it can do 0-60 in 4.8-4.9. my m5 does it in about 4.3 - so a half second behind with all the weight is amazing. go turbo go...
Appreciate 0
      06-10-2009, 04:46 AM   #9
750_ooomph
New Member
Philippines
6
Rep
10
Posts

Drives: 2004 BMW 730i
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Manila, Philippines

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by schnell330i View Post
yeah like said above, the 750 definitely didnt have the anti roll stabilization like the merc did. Ive driven the s550 with abc before and thought that it handled very unnaturally (in a turn, it boosts up the outside part of the car and hunkers down the inside, which I think feels really weird; you can clearly see this in the slalom part of the video in the first post, and they commented a bit on it as being "counter-intuitive)

Here is edmunds testing a sports pack, ARS equipped 750i (notice how there is much less roll, yet it still responds to the lateral forces naturally)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqSc-encjNY

gotta love the quote "the 750 has S63 AMG performance for less than S550 price"
Thanks for the link. I did notice that it had less body roll.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:48 AM.




7post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST