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      07-12-2017, 06:29 PM   #419
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Given new 7 and 5 the 3er should be mellow boring but then again that mellow style might look good on a 3er. These pics actually look good in terms of the shape.
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if they bring in hybridisation I hope to God they don't pair it with the 4 banger. By the time I started to get interested in the Active Hybrid 3 they replaced it with the 330e which just doesn't appeal to me I'm afraid.
Like I say, they have the 40e setup there for the taking. Yes, it does use an I4, but it can make 320hp today and I'm sure more is possible. This, especially considering they have the high output B48 derivative coming next year too which will be able to make over 300hp on its own. Whether or not they choose to pair that engine with an electric motor and whether they furthermore would offer such a setup in the 3 Series is unknown. But to me they have to at least be thinking about these possibilities given where things are headed.

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Surely the next generation 3 series will do pretty much as Volvo does from 2019. Mild hybrid and PHEV only, not "just" ICE drivetrain.
No, this is not the case. We know as fact that there will be 330i and M340i models. A 320i is possible for US return as well, and of course all of the other gasoline and diesel models in other markets.
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The 3 has just got too big, even the current car is a couple of inches too long imo.. why do manufacturers insist on competing with each other for interior space with every replacement model? Once the new 1 appears in a couple of years there will be no option whatsoever of a compact RWD BMW... sad times indeed!!
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Not sure if anybody caught it from the photos, but bye-bye emergency brake lever. Looks like the car comes with an e-parking brake.
... and bye-bye to rear fixed-piston calipers.
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      07-15-2017, 09:30 PM   #423
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Not sure if anybody caught it from the photos, but bye-bye emergency brake lever. Looks like the car comes with an e-parking brake.
... and bye-bye to rear fixed-piston calipers.
But why? Audi s4, Mercedes C43,63. Both have floating rear. Why? Cost?
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But why? Audi s4, Mercedes C43,63. Both have floating rear. Why? Cost?
Have you seen any BMW with electronic parking brake and rear fixed-piston calipers so far? Not even the new M5 have them...
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But why? Audi s4, Mercedes C43,63. Both have floating rear. Why? Cost?
Have you seen any BMW with electronic parking brake and rear fixed-piston calipers so far? Not even the new M5 have them...
G30 does. Porsche all have fixed rear
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G30 does. Porsche all have fixed rear
Look at the G30 rear calipers again, please.
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      07-15-2017, 11:09 PM   #427
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G30 does. Porsche all have fixed rear
Look at the G30 rear calipers again, please.
But why? What is the limitation here? Porsche 911 all have electronic e brake and fixed rear. Corvette too. Alfa giulia qv.
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I noticed that the start button has migrated to the center console like on the z4/z5 prototype as well as the 8 series concept.
Just hoping for a manual.
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New BMW (serial production) full-LED headlight graphics premiere ...

Btw, don't mind the new Ford Focus prototype in front.

And... expect the new 3er also in full BEV variant. Tesla3 is getting a serious rival sooner than expected. Rejoice.
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New BMW (serial production) full-LED headlight graphics premiere ...

Btw, don't mind the new Ford Focus prototype in front.

And... expect the new 3er also in full BEV variant. Tesla3 is getting a serious rival sooner than expected. Rejoice.
Thanks a lot..was waiting for a better look at those prototypes wearing the production headlights spotted in this location. I hope they get caught again so maybe we can see the rear and more body details.

This seems to have borrowed cues from the VFL concept..really sleek headlight units right there..BMW could have something here. Let's hope the interior it's actually not just a copy/paste, like the 7er, 5er..its time to bring something interesting to the table. They have been uninspired for far too long.
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Update: August 9, 2017

The G20 3 Series has finally revealed some production parts as we now get our first look at the production LED headlights and tail lights. These headlights feature a closed loop design. It remains to be seen whether these are intended for the base model, with higher end models featuring the current open L-shaped styling.

And while we now see the lighting elements of the production tail lights, their overall shape is still obscured by the camouflage.

G20 3 Series Production Headlights and Taillights


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      08-09-2017, 03:41 PM   #432
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Looks promising, but there is only so much BMW can change with their traditional styling. I love the halos and L shaped taillights, but sometimes envy Audi which can evolve their lights in much cooler and drastic ways. Hope they find some way to make these look different if they're closed, kind of liked the f30 LCI headlights.
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Looks promising, but there is only so much BMW can change with their traditional styling. I love the halos and L shaped taillights, but sometimes envy Audi which can evolve their lights in much cooler and drastic ways. Hope they find some way to make these look different if they're closed, kind of liked the f30 LCI headlights.
I?m actually quite opposite in opinion - Audi often could be mistaken for many other brands trying the LED line, where BMW has a extremely unique double-eye look that no matter the model is easy to recognise

Think about it - what other car brand has a similar very unique headlight look that’s instantly recognisable? While Audi and Merc certainly has some cool looking models, they are all over the place regarding the LED style
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      08-09-2017, 03:47 PM   #435
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The closed loop design is probably the low end headlight. LED but projector style and non adaptive. The higher end lights get the open end design.
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I'm assuming that these are for the base model. I guess we can expect some kind of hexagonal (icon) design for the DRLs much like the LCI 4 and new 5.
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The closed loop design is probably the low end headlight. LED but projector style and non adaptive. The higher end lights get the open end design.
Makes sense! This seems to be an M340i? Is that what we're calling it?
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The closed loop design is probably the low end headlight. LED but projector style and non adaptive. The higher end lights get the open end design.
Makes sense! This seems to be an M340i? Is that what we're calling it?
I think the mules with the trapezoid exhaust tips are M340i. Then again, who knows what naming kerfuffle BMW will pull.
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I love how they finally realized that they should put the lock button on the door......... wtf
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I don't know how you can tell it's closed design from those pics, but I hope it is. Agree with DeeKay, BMW has been known for the "halo" design, needs to stay that way.

Appears to be circular on the sides, and straight on bottom...maybe straight on top. I like it!
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