Moving from 2014 Cayman S, what next?

[JNoSol]

Audi V10 R8 with 6 speed (last gen)

[trixdout]

You really are searching for a unicorn.

1. low end torque
2. no turbos
3. compact gt
4. torque around 300 ft-lbs at 1500rpm
5. $80k.
6. manual


You might have to sacrifice one of the above to meet the criteria. I think the biggest hurdle is #2.

[baege]

Originally Posted by trixdout

You really are searching for a unicorn.

1. low end torque
2. no turbos
3. compact gt
4. torque around 300 ft-lbs at 1500rpm
5. $80k.
6. manual


You might have to sacrifice one of the above to meet the criteria. I think the biggest hurdle is #2.

yup my ideal car is definitely going the way of the dodo bird..

the r8 v10 someone suggested is a real possibility if I am willing to stretch the budget..by quite a bit.

a cpo f type coupe manual seems to be the lead runner or a 2009 and up vantage v8 manual...both kind of unicorns, but it can be fun looking for a unicorn

[///M Ryder]

Originally Posted by trixdout

You really are searching for a unicorn.

1. low end torque
2. no turbos
3. compact gt
4. torque around 300 ft-lbs at 1500rpm
5. $80k.
6. manual


You might have to sacrifice one of the above to meet the criteria. I think the biggest hurdle is #2.

#2 and #4........they go hand in hand......Phil

[eluded]

Chevy SS is the car. Or a c7 or Craparo

V8m3 has absolutely nothing down low. It's a torqueless wonder

[WreckerX5d]

Originally Posted by eluded

Chevy SS is the car. Or a c7 or Craparo

V8m3 has absolutely nothing down low. It's a torqueless wonder

Funny how that car fits the bill for a lot on this forum, yet no one wants it. Oh well, more available ones for me in the market when it's time for me to switch.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by eluded

Chevy SS is the car. Or a c7 or Craparo

V8m3 has absolutely nothing down low. It's a torqueless wonder

Only if one can't drive.

"High-speed engine concept for superior power and torque in practice.

The second factor crucial to driving dynamics, the power and thrust actually conveyed to and by the drive wheels, results from engine torque and the overall transmission ratio. At 400 Newton-metres or 295 lb-ft at 3,900 rpm, maximum torque of the new eight-cylinder is approximately 10 cent higher than the peak torque of the former straight-six, and the engine develops an equally superior 340 Newton-metres or 251 lb-ft at just 2,000 rpm. No less than some 85 per cent of the maximum torque is indeed maintained consistently over a speed range of 6,500 rpm very broad indeed for a sports car engine."

[eluded]

hehe i love the M3-V8 but couldn't find a low milage four door with a stick

so i had to settle

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Only if one can't drive.

[SunnyD]

Originally Posted by baege

just read more about m5's with the v10, seems like they are not really good with the low end torque and come alive above 4000 rpm

545i or 645ci seem to be where its at for low end torque

You better avoid the e60 m5, as it is pretty gutless under 5,000rpm. Don't know why you're not considering a turbo car, as you cant beat the low end power

[ShocknAwe]

Could do Ftype S RWD 6MT. Supercharged V6, but a great one.

[dtwyim]

If you are stretching your budget, get a 991.1 manual with X51.

991 better tourer than 997.

[baege]

So things are developing with the GF and I am afraid my days of 2 seater sports cars are ending, at least in the short term. Happens to the best of them

So I am looking to get opinions on the best coupe with a little more practicality that I can move to. I need a car that is 2014 and up (so I can get a cpo warranty with 2-3 years remaining) I am looking at spending 80k cnd max, but I don't need to spend that much.

Here's what I value:
low end torque (I like a good push in the back at low rpms)
compact size
good visibility
the responsiveness and sound of non turbo engines
closest thing I can get to a manual transmission (so paddles are a must)
good ride and handling balance

cars that come to mind are
Bmw 650i coupe (turbo but v8 at least)
lexus rc 350 or F
audi rs5
2017 and up c43 amg class coupe or maybe the c63 (non s) (turbos but amazing low end torque figures)

thoughts on these puppies or any other suggestions?

[eluded]

Are you selling the 2 dr car for a larger car?

[baege]

Originally Posted by eluded

Are you selling the 2 dr car for a larger car?

looking to move from my 2 seater to a more practical 4 seater but hopefully still a 2 door

[orangeglim]

You can skip the Lexus RC350, you'd be disappointed. It's a huge boat and slow.

[eluded]

I was hoping you were buying another car to add to the herd. Use caution making compromises before you're married.

Unmarried equals freedom
Marriage equals compromise
Kids equal sacrifice

[PopsnBurbles]

M2 is my top pick for this. It's four seats, DCT must be good (I found my E82's DCT to be pretty good), two doors, visibility is nice (based on my M235i seating experience), low end torque is sweet with that N55, and compact size.

I don't know how an M2 rides but I'm sure it handles great. It looks like a pretty balanced car based on what I've watched online. It also sounds sweet but it's nothing like a nice sounding NA engine. It starts at 52K USD and is around 58K "fully loaded." I'm not sure if dealers will mark the hell up out of the car and if current availability would permit getting one any time til the end of the year. IDK how much an M2 costs in Canada though...

Among your options, the RS5 appeals to me most especially if it's the (4.2L?) NA V8 one.

[inTgr8r]

Mustang GT 5.0L
- 2dr
- back seat
- NA
- paddles available
- lots of torque
- new rear suspension is a world of difference.

[Fabb]

Maybe a M4? I mean it's quite a big car but you got plenty of space

And i dont think you have much of low end torque from a NA engine.

[baege]

Originally Posted by PopsnBurbles

M2 is my top pick for this. It's four seats, DCT must be good (I found my E82's DCT to be pretty good), two doors, visibility is nice (based on my M235i seating experience), low end torque is sweet with that N55, and compact size.

I don't know how an M2 rides but I'm sure it handles great. It looks like a pretty balanced car based on what I've watched online. It also sounds sweet but it's nothing like a nice sounding NA engine. It starts at 52K USD and is around 58K "fully loaded." I'm not sure if dealers will mark the hell up out of the car and if current availability would permit getting one any time til the end of the year. IDK how much an M2 costs in Canada though...

Among your options, the RS5 appeals to me most especially if it's the (4.2L?) NA V8 one.

definitely like the m2, impossible to get in Canada!

[baege]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Mustang GT 5.0L
- 2dr
- back seat
- NA
- paddles available
- lots of torque
- new rear suspension is a world of difference.

the GF hates mustangs

[baege]

Originally Posted by Fabb

Maybe a M4? I mean it's quite a big car but you got plenty of space

And i dont think you have much of low end torque from a NA engine.

definitely going to test drive an M4