2024 i7 Pricing Guide

[DroMike]

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[M6-Coupe]

168k base price for M70?! 😮
Adding some packages it exceeds 200k

[ballagans]

If I’m not wrong, this would make M70 the most expensive BMW on sale, more than the XM??

[DroMike]

Conversely -- and speaking as a half-full type of guy -- I LOVE the fact that with the further introduction of the new i7 eDrive50, one can get the exact same car as the 60, so long as they are fine with it (1) being RWD instead of AWD, and (2) 449HP, a decrease of a mere 87HP, for almost $20,000 less!

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

168k base price for M70?! 😮
Adding some packages it exceeds 200k

Top market EV sedans ain't cheap..all this needs is 1000hp and it would fit in.

[CaboM4]

Originally Posted by ballagans

If I’m not wrong, this would make M70 the most expensive BMW on sale, more than the XM??

Having the iX M60 and the i7 xDrive60 ... I can tell you the little bit of extra power the M70 will receive over the xDrive60 isn't worth the price BMW is trying to command for the vehicle.

Their marketing department is definitely high on methamphetamines! XMs are seeing real-world discounting of $15-20k off MSRP as the market is flooded with these things and most aren't biting at the sticker price. I expect the same to occur if BMW overproduces the i7 M70 like they have the XM

[ChiTownM]

Originally Posted by CaboM4

Having the iX M60 and the i7 xDrive60 ... I can tell you the little bit of extra power the M70 will receive over the xDrive60 isn't worth the price BMW is trying to command for the vehicle.

Their marketing department is definitely high on methamphetamines! XMs are seeing real-world discounting of $15-20k off MSRP as the market is flooded with these things and most aren't biting at the sticker price. I expect the same to occur if BMW overproduces the i7 M70 like they have the XM

Well said. We saw how they killed the i8 market value by doing so in NA and saturating the market! I would not buy any BMW - regardless how limited including Ms - at list price, MSRP or “ADM”.

[hufington]

Originally Posted by CaboM4

Having the iX M60 and the i7 xDrive60 ... I can tell you the little bit of extra power the M70 will receive over the xDrive60 isn't worth the price BMW is trying to command for the vehicle.

Their marketing department is definitely high on methamphetamines! XMs are seeing real-world discounting of $15-20k off MSRP as the market is flooded with these things and most aren't biting at the sticker price. I expect the same to occur if BMW overproduces the i7 M70 like they have the XM

That was the plan since the beginning with the XM.

Bring out a car that no one asked for, price it with an absurdly high price tag and confuse the heck out of the buyers. Once everyone is confused and 100K looks cheap in comparison, start increasing all prices by 10-20K blaming the inflation and supply chain issues while you point out at the price if the XM and tell buyers that they are actually getting a bargain! Later, bring out other cars like the M70 and ask for 200K! All justified.

Even with 15-20K discounts, they are still making a ton of money as the XM has a boat load of shared parts with the other BMW series.

Actually, this is brilliant marketing tactics relying on peoples gullibility and shortness of memory.

Tell people that they are getting the "ultimate" BMW and repeat it ad nauseum until they start believing and you have your pricing at the level you want. It doesn't matter if the car is ugly, not practical, or something that noone asked for.

It is like a Trojan Horse to distract the market. So expensive that anything else looks like a bargain. So ugly that any other design is acceptable.

[orkinos]

Originally Posted by hufington

That was the plan since the beginning with the XM.

Bring out a car that no one asked for, price it with an absurdly high price tag and confuse the heck out of the buyers. Once everyone is confused and 100K looks cheap in comparison, start increasing all prices by 10-20K blaming the inflation and supply chain issues while you point out at the price if the XM and tell buyers that they are actually getting a bargain! Later, bring out other cars like the M70 and ask for 200K! All justified.

Even with 15-20K discounts, they are still making a ton of money as the XM has a boat load of shared parts with the other BMW series.

Actually, this is brilliant marketing tactics relying on peoples gullibility and shortness of memory.

Tell people that they are getting the "ultimate" BMW and repeat it ad nauseum until they start believing and you have your pricing at the level you want. It doesn't matter if the car is ugly, not practical, or something that noone asked for.

It is like a Trojan Horse to distract the market. So expensive that anything else looks like a bargain. So ugly that any other design is acceptable.

I remember that you've been saying that the XM is a Trojan Horse since it came out.

[bavarianboar]

Originally Posted by CaboM4

Having the iX M60 and the i7 xDrive60 ... I can tell you the little bit of extra power the M70 will receive over the xDrive60 isn't worth the price BMW is trying to command for the vehicle.

Their marketing department is definitely high on methamphetamines! XMs are seeing real-world discounting of $15-20k off MSRP as the market is flooded with these things and most aren't biting at the sticker price. I expect the same to occur if BMW overproduces the i7 M70 like they have the XM

In this territory it’s like housing prices math.

List price does not really matter, there are huge margins on these cars. Marketing department is probably not going to change annything

They sell for what moves them from the lot. Hopefully nobody paid MSRP

[JK479]

Originally Posted by orkinos

I remember that you've been saying that the XM is a Trojan Horse since it came out.

I’ll say this about the xM- it’s on road presence is significant. It’s hybrid configuration should have been non plug in.

Potential to take on Lambo is lost when you forgot to plug it in. That’s just lost power.

These monsters that run only on gas are easy warriors. Add in a battery pack that needs 30 mins to charge and you have a lost cause for me.

[Luminor513]

Originally Posted by CaboM4

Having the iX M60 and the i7 xDrive60 ... I can tell you the little bit of extra power the M70 will receive over the xDrive60 isn't worth the price BMW is trying to command for the vehicle.

Their marketing department is definitely high on methamphetamines! XMs are seeing real-world discounting of $15-20k off MSRP as the market is flooded with these things and most aren't biting at the sticker price. I expect the same to occur if BMW overproduces the i7 M70 like they have the XM

Funny how the tides have turned. I’m receiving phone calls from BMW CA’s asking if I’m still in the market for a new vehicle. They are desperate. And I’m in one of their biggest markets in South Florida. The days of MSRP and even ADM’s is over.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

“Top market EV sedans ain't cheap…. All this needs is 1000hp and it would fit in”

And 400+ miles of range ❕

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

And 400+ miles of range ❕

Haha there isn't a 1,000 HP ev yet they gets 400+ miles of range..let alone agony EV on sale.

But perhaps in due time with newer tech in 25

[TXSchnee]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Haha there isn't a 1,000 HP ev yet they gets 400+ miles of range..let alone agony EV on sale.

But perhaps in due time with newer tech in 25

The Lucid Air Grand Touring would like a few words with your statement. Over 1000hp and over 400 miles of range. Tech is there, it is the cost of said tech that is holding it back.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by TXSchnee

The Lucid Air Grand Touring would like a few words with your statement. Over 1000hp and over 400 miles of range. Tech is there, it is the cost of said tech that is holding it back.

Haha...

However it's a claimed over 400 miles but so far no one has proven...gotten close at the normal 70-75mph driving speed.

The image below is of a lesser version but only way to get that range was 63mph...

I agree tech...cost, weight and size of battery. Tech isn't there yet.


Personally I am content with 300 miles BUT what I NEED is charging and the ability to fill it up within the same amount of time it takes me to piss, wash my hands and grab a snack

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Haha there isn't a 1,000 HP ev yet they gets 400+ miles of range..let alone agony EV on sale.

But perhaps in due time with newer tech in 25

The Lucid Air Dream Edition Performance, with a righteous 1,111 hp, has up to 471-miles of range

Having less then 300 miles of total range at this price point is not ideal

Hopefully BMW will up their game in very short order

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

The Lucid Air Dream Edition Performance, with a righteous 1,111 hp, has up to 471-miles of range

Having less then 300 miles of total range at this price point is not ideal

Hopefully BMW will up their game in very short order

I look at it like this... If these folks are able to buy a 180-220k EV ( which will be outdated in a year like an Iphone) they likely don't care much about range.

They most likely have another car and or a best of the best home charging and just plug in daily overnight so it's always at 80%.

Very few high power cars above 500hp have range of 400+ miles... Absent pickups/suvs with a 30+ gallon tank.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

I look at it like this... If these folks are able to buy a 180-220k EV ( which will be outdated in a year like an Iphone) they likely don't care much about range.

They most likely have another car and or a best of the best home charging and just plug in daily overnight so it's always at 80%.

Very few high power cars above 500hp have range of 400+ miles... Absent pickups/suvs with a 30+ gallon tank.

Agreed… That’s exactly why you want to lease these cars

A bigger battery comes out and a bigger screen… 🤩 It’s time to launch it… 💨

[orkinos]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Agreed… That’s exactly why you want to lease these cars

A bigger battery comes out and a bigger screen… 🤩 It’s time to launch it… 💨

My problem is with this unrefined tech that gets improved almost daily. You buy/lease something and in a couple of months it's old story! With ICEs, you have options to modify them to keep the power current at least.

[TXSchnee]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Haha...

However it's a claimed over 400 miles but so far no one has proven...gotten close at the normal 70-75mph driving speed.

The image below is of a lesser version but only way to get that range was 63mph...

I agree tech...cost, weight and size of battery. Tech isn't there yet.


Personally I am content with 300 miles BUT what I NEED is charging and the ability to fill it up within the same amount of time it takes me to piss, wash my hands and grab a snack

Range doesn't matter to me personally, it is why I have a Taycan. I am getting far more range than EPA rated, and really only need to plug in every 3 days (I top off to 85% every night). I agree recharging time is more important than range, which is why the 800V architecture Porsche and the Hyundai/Kia EVs use is a better answer, can go from 5%-80% in about 15-20 minutes. The problem is that everyone is switching to the Tesla NACS charge plug, which currently cannot handle 800V (supposedly coming in the future, sort of like the Cybertruck) which means slower charging speeds and longer times sitting. I kept my PHEV for long trips, and will probably replace it with another PHEV when time comes. If most people were honest with themselves, about 200 miles of range is all they need (with home charging ability) 99% of the time.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by TXSchnee

Range doesn't matter to me personally, it is why I have a Taycan. I am getting far more range than EPA rated, and really only need to plug in every 3 days (I top off to 85% every night). I agree recharging time is more important than range, which is why the 800V architecture Porsche and the Hyundai/Kia EVs use is a better answer, can go from 5%-80% in about 15-20 minutes. The problem is that everyone is switching to the Tesla NACS charge plug, which currently cannot handle 800V (supposedly coming in the future, sort of like the Cybertruck) which means slower charging speeds and longer times sitting. I kept my PHEV for long trips, and will probably replace it with another PHEV when time comes. If most people were honest with themselves, about 200 miles of range is all they need (with home charging ability) 99% of the time.

Makes sense I wonder if some manufacturers will have two plugs one for Telsa and the other for new tech.