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      05-12-2011, 10:38 AM   #23
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The nav system in my e65 2008 was so much more accurate than the new 750xdrive. But, the new nav system is far more intuitive. The coolest thing is being able to enter your address verbally. And, the second coolest thing but more useful is the google interface...it is brilliant for finding places.

But, the new nav system does not draw the exits in the same detail as the e65. This confuses some drivers. I think I heard BMW no longer uses navtech. That is a shame since navtech was good. Except it has always been a real pita getting your hand on the updates!

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S is a nice car and drives decent. a bit too floaty for me. 7 is a beautiful handling, looking and driving machine. My only complaint is the I wish the Nav system was like the S
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      05-12-2011, 11:57 AM   #24
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The nav system in my e65 2008 was so much more accurate than the new 750xdrive. But, the new nav system is far more intuitive. The coolest thing is being able to enter your address verbally. And, the second coolest thing but more useful is the google interface...it is brilliant for finding places.

But, the new nav system does not draw the exits in the same detail as the e65. This confuses some drivers. I think I heard BMW no longer uses navtech. That is a shame since navtech was good. Except it has always been a real pita getting your hand on the updates!
I had quite a few interesting issues with the navigation system, actually not as much with the navigation system as with the actual data! My navigation system has been updated every single time a new version came out including the latest one. The data has gotten better but is still way behind actual changes in our area. There was construction on a major intersection on two highways that was completed well over a year ago and the data in the navigation system is still wrong. If I would follow the instruction I would end up going south when I in fact have to go north. I'm sure that if I were to follow the instruction to stay right (which after the change gets you onto the southbound lanes after the re-did these ramps) and I go south, it would immediately tell me to get of the highway and re-direct me to go north (at least I hope it wouldn't tell me to do a legal U-turn, that would be bad )...

I wish I could report issues like this to the data provider like the update feature on the Navteq website. I used this feature on Navteq's website in the past to update them on a new bridge that was build around the area I work in and the next map update had the corrected/updated data, made me happy
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      07-13-2011, 09:47 PM   #25
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Wow what are people thinking. The F01 7 is way mor engaging than the S. I have an 03 745i, an 05 S500, 11 750i and drove the s550 before I bought the new 7. No comparison more power in the 7 better handling and better finish. Also keep in mind the new S will be out later this year and should bring some nice bells and whistles.
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      07-29-2011, 06:28 PM   #26
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I mean it may just be a difference in a opinion.

We had an '04 745li, and an ;06 750i. Then we got a '07 S550, since the body didn't really change much till '09 on the 7, and it didn't make sense to get back in the same car for 3 more years (lease)

Admittedly, it was very hard, to leave the 7; since we are die hard bmw drivers. I didn't really like the S at first, but after a few months, it really turned into a dream.

And then this past year, after driving the 7 on three different test drives; including one that lasted a weekend; we went for a 2010, S class even though it was pretty much the same car minus some small changes.

7 series is an awesome car, but i think MB won on this one. Just a different feel to the S.
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      07-29-2011, 06:29 PM   #27
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The nav system in my e65 2008 was so much more accurate than the new 750xdrive. But, the new nav system is far more intuitive. The coolest thing is being able to enter your address verbally. And, the second coolest thing but more useful is the google interface...it is brilliant for finding places.

But, the new nav system does not draw the exits in the same detail as the e65. This confuses some drivers. I think I heard BMW no longer uses navtech. That is a shame since navtech was good. Except it has always been a real pita getting your hand on the updates!

I remember that we could verbally enter an address on our '04...then again it was a real pain lol.
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Drove both back-to-back during one of the recent US Olympic Team events, and must say I far prefer the exterior and interior styling of the 7 Series. And the handling is much better too. I drove an S550 and an F02 750Li.

In my opinion, the interior of the Benz was a confusing morass of overly glossy (read: distracting) wood and chrome, and the switchgear was counter-intuitive. And that keypad under the flip-up palm rest thingie was just in the way. The exterior is just plain goofy looking. The Benz features the previously maligned "Bangle Butt" from the 2002-2008 7 Series and looks as if it's got it's tail tucked between it's legs (cowering?). Just strange. It's as if the S-Class was designed by Klingons, while the 7-Series was designed by the Federation

About the only "wow" feature in the S550 that I wish the 7 Series had was the active side bolsters in the front seats. When I tossed the big S550 into the corners, the bolsters instantly cradled me in the seat. Quite a neat feature. But, then again, the damned thing leaned so much into the corners that these bolsters were required. If they'd tuned the thing correctly, they wouldn't need a fancy seat to keep you planted behind the wheel

So, I ordered an F02 7 Series. Get to pick it up at the Welt in September and can't wait!
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      08-07-2011, 12:16 PM   #29
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There is one thing and one thing alone that draws me towards the 7 series over the S class.

Active Ventilated, massaging, 20-way multi-contour nappa leather seats.

Argument over.
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7 Series is the Ultimate Driving Machine by a Mile!
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      08-13-2011, 06:39 PM   #31
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7 Series is the Ultimate Driving Machine by a Mile!
no kidding, specially the FO1
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      08-15-2011, 04:29 PM   #32
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I like the 7 for the seats and the short wheelbase option. However, I like the S too.
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      08-25-2011, 10:40 PM   #33
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There is one thing and one thing alone that draws me towards the 7 series over the S class.

Active Ventilated, massaging, 20-way multi-contour nappa leather seats.

Argument over.
Have you used the seats in the S class? They are way nicer than the 7 series seats. Active ventilated, massaging, and a true MC seat, with position control.
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