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      09-22-2015, 02:19 PM   #89
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Get two (or three) jobs, making far less than you were prior. None of these new part time jobs will have benefits either. Welcome to the "recovery".
That's pretty foolish advice, OP should do some math first.

If what he makes on unemployment insurance is greater than what he's likely to make working three part time jobs then you'd be foolish to take the PT jobs since once you do, you lose your unemployment benefits.

For reasons beyond my comprehension some people feel "bad" for taking unemployment benefits. I, luckily, have never had to use it but if I did, I would with no shame. Why? I've paid payroll taxes my entire working career so I'd be merely getting some of that back.

It's like paying car insurance premiums then feeling bad having the car insurance company cover a majority of repairs after an accident.
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Do really truly believe all the nonsense you just wrote? If things are so rosey, why are median incomes down 6.5% from recession lows? Why are they down 1.5% from last year alone?

http://freebeacon.com/issues/incomes...nce-last-year/

The Official Unemployment figure is completely bogus. When you don't count people as unemployed who have given up looking for work after one month as Unemployed, sure you get to a nice little BS 5.1% figure that only lemmings believe in. If the Government still used the basis by which unemployment was measured in the Reagan administration, we'd be over 20% right now. Even the U6 still has it over 10%.
It's not completely bogus, you just kind of have to look at all of the measures to get a broader picture of the situation. At the end though, no matter which one you look at, they all trend pretty much the same over time:



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Gas prices are low because the world is in an economic slowdown. There's less producing, less shipping, etc., so the need for fuel has collapsed and there's now a glut (hence the lower prices). To you, this sounds like a good thing right?
Not really, a large reason is an easier one, slowing demand namely in China, has but that doesn't mean the "world" is having an economic slowdown. Granted it's not booming, but it's not in some state of depression or anything. The Iran deal also caused gas prices to drop since speculators believed the lifting of sanctions would increase supply of crude from Iran.

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The amount of wealth built up? Yeah, it's been great if you're the 1%, everybody else has seen their wealth decreased. If you were rich before, you're even richer now, screw everybody else. Sounds great!
Not really, if you own a retirement account that invests in stocks or have any long term stocks yourself, congrats, they've experienced the same growth in wealth everyone else has. Obviously the 1% are more heavily leveraged in the stock market than most others are, but that doesn't mean only they benefited from the strong stock market. It's also a double edged sword, if you notice when people talk about the wealth growth of the 1%...they always pick 2008 as the base year. That's because when the housing market crashed in 2007, many of those same 1% lost a shit ton of money, significantly more than anyone else. So like I said, it works both ways.

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If everything is so great for the economy, why can't the Fed raise rates even 25bps? We can't even sustain a .25% increase in rates for fear of the whole thing blowing up.
Because if someone in China farts, the markets freak out. Most of your other points I agree with though for the most part.
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      09-22-2015, 02:57 PM   #92
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That's pretty foolish advice, OP should do some math first.

If what he makes on unemployment insurance is greater than what he's likely to make working three part time jobs then you'd be foolish to take the PT jobs since once you do, you lose your unemployment benefits.

For reasons beyond my comprehension some people feel "bad" for taking unemployment benefits. I, luckily, have never had to use it but if I did, I would with no shame. Why? I've paid payroll taxes my entire working career so I'd be merely getting some of that back.

It's like paying car insurance premiums then feeling bad having the car insurance company cover a majority of repairs after an accident.
Totally agree, if you pay into something, there should be no shame collecting on that. Hopefully you live in a State where the amount being paid is actually worth it! I think Missouri is total garbage, like $320 a week or something.
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It's funny because I have actually thought about this the last few months. Only because I like traveling and interacting with people. If it was in CA I would be interested. FL is not my top place to live right now. I dislike really humid/hot weather. I would melt there. Lol
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I didn't say engineering, I said manufacturing - as in the making of _everything_. Huge field, desperate need for people to show up, on time, and just be willing to learn.

Don't know anything? Great! We'll train you! We'd rather train you from scratch, then undo all your bad habits from past "experience".

Not good with math? No problem, that's why God invented calculators!

And I'm serious when I say that the possibilities are wide-open. If you don't like getting your hands dirty, and are willing to move especially, your future is wide open, as you can move into sales, technical specialist, production/process "engineer", or whatever. If you're smart enough to research and design a new, effective exhaust system for our cars, then you already have that *thing* that says you have what it takes. And it sounds like you enjoy those technical things and all that.

But, whatever. Your life, your wants, your decisions. I wish you the best of luck. My only real advice to you would be this: If you're unhappy, don't hang around, despite whatever your "best intentions" say you should do. Find something better. Now. Don't let an opportunity (*cough*activeautowerke*cough*) slip by because you *think* you're doing the right thing, for whatever reason...
Manufacturing seems interesting, but I had it in my mind I wanted to do mechanical engineering. That didn't last very long and I found myself dabbling along - long story short, logic and reasoning are my strong areas, and things like social sciences just click for me. I even took a practice LSAT class and scored well enough that the instructor thought I showed some real potential. Anyhow, my biggest concern is school - when you're wasting around watching your Ex graduate, and you realize you wrote her papers for class....it puts things into perspective.

It literally burns me with rage.
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@TheAxiom I'm willing to hire you over Mr.SugarSkulls if you still need a job.

I'm similar to you in the fact that I do much better with social sciences. I took the LSAT for fun without studying and did pretty well, considering. However, I did finance/accounting, 1. Because it interests me, and 2. Because if you're going to pay $200k for school, you might as well study something that you actually need to "learn." Perhaps it's just my perspective, but I felt like I didn't need to go to school to study the things I'm good at. Btw, I also really blow at math despite being Asian, but it's worked out just fine for me - if you're interested in finance, don't let that be the thing that holds you back. Sorry, this post is all over the place; I'm on my phone.
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@TheAxiom I'm willing to hire you over Mr.SugarSkulls if you still need a job.

I'm similar to you in the fact that I do much better with social sciences. I took the LSAT for fun without studying and did pretty well, considering. However, I did finance/accounting, 1. Because it interests me, and 2. Because if you're going to pay $200k for school, you might as well study something that you actually need to "learn." Perhaps it's just my perspective, but I felt like I didn't need to go to school to study the things I'm good at. Btw, I also really blow at math despite being Asian, but it's worked out just fine for me - if you're interested in finance, don't let that be the thing that holds you back. Sorry, this post is all over the place; I'm on my phone.
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@TheAxiom I'm willing to hire you over Mr.SugarSkulls if you still need a job.

I'm similar to you in the fact that I do much better with social sciences. I took the LSAT for fun without studying and did pretty well, considering. However, I did finance/accounting, 1. Because it interests me, and 2. Because if you're going to pay $200k for school, you might as well study something that you actually need to "learn." Perhaps it's just my perspective, but I felt like I didn't need to go to school to study the things I'm good at. Btw, I also really blow at math despite being Asian, but it's worked out just fine for me - if you're interested in finance, don't let that be the thing that holds you back. Sorry, this post is all over the place; I'm on my phone.
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Does anyone here actually value LinkedIn? I think it is so full of shit and useless. A box to tick but definitely not something I've ever needed to or ever will rely on. LinkedIn...to me is like a sleazebag in a loose fitting suit handing out his business card to everyone he sees at a convention.
Exactly as a hiring manager in the IT field whenever I get a LinkedIn response it's from some cold calling recruiter who does not even know what I support or what my group does. IMO you are much better off dealing with someone who has a true presence in an industry rather than someone trying to fill slots with anything. My personal LinkedIn profile is at least 10 years old and one of my skills on it is DOS 3.0 and people still email me. They don't even read it or they would run from it.
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Exactly as a hiring manager in the IT field whenever I get a LinkedIn response it's from some cold calling recruiter who does not even know what I support or what my group does. IMO you are much better off dealing with someone who has a true presence in an industry rather than someone trying to fill slots with anything. My personal LinkedIn profile is at least 10 years old and one of my skills on it is DOS 3.0 and people still email me. They don't even read it or they would run from it.
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Exactly as a hiring manager in the IT field whenever I get a LinkedIn response it's from some cold calling recruiter who does not even know what I support or what my group does. IMO you are much better off dealing with someone who has a true presence in an industry rather than someone trying to fill slots with anything. My personal LinkedIn profile is at least 10 years old and one of my skills on it is DOS 3.0 and people still email me. They don't even read it or they would run from it.
Lol to me it's almost useless but it's a decent way to keep contact with old co workers / recruiters that I know that could always help if anything.
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Does anyone here actually value LinkedIn? I think it is so full of shit and useless. A box to tick but definitely not something I've ever needed to or ever will rely on. LinkedIn...to me is like a sleazebag in a loose fitting suit handing out his business card to everyone he sees at a convention.
I've gotten a lot of job opportunities through LinkedIn. Most of them were actually opportunities that are relevant to my field, which I appreciate. I'm currently actively working with a recruiter on a new job opportunity so if this works out I'd be a huge supporter of using it.

I don't see what's the harm of having one.. it would probably help you than hurt you to have one.
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Can I find a new job here too? I'm a pharmacist in retail for 20 years and want something different that pays me equally.
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Can I find a new job here too? I'm a pharmacist in retail for 20 years and want something different that pays me equally.
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Does anyone here actually value LinkedIn? I think it is so full of shit and useless. A box to tick but definitely not something I've ever needed to or ever will rely on. LinkedIn...to me is like a sleazebag in a loose fitting suit handing out his business card to everyone he sees at a convention.
I have gotten all but one of my jobs through LinkedIn by way of being appeoached by a recruiter. So yes... it's not to be dismissed.
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The graph fecurtis graph is as accurate as what I see on job market vs unemp.

There are people from 2000-2001 still trying to look for a job which paid them decent. 2008 hits, and it got worse.

I WAS looking for a job which paid well for years and years. Heck, I even took crazy jobs to pay for bills. Now I gave up for those jobs, and work at home.
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