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yousefnjr · 10-01-2015, 01:27 PM

hellrotm · 10-01-2015, 01:41 PM

Randy saying the AMG GT-S was the best handling car he has ever driven, is very high praise. The guy has driven everything.

RSXDC5 · 10-01-2015, 02:07 PM

WOW, is this a joke? The lexus rcf is in the test but not the m3/m4?!?!?!?!

ridin135 · 10-01-2015, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

WOW, is this a joke? The lexus rcf is in the test but not the m3/m4?!?!?!?!

M3/m4 came out last year

gonzo · 10-01-2015, 02:38 PM

30k...go little Miata Club!

This didn't help Z06 sales.

CTS-V is a great all rounder for under 100k. I like that and think it looks great.

The GT S still looks wrong. Just not right in that department.

Go little Miata lol.

Bingobimmer · 10-01-2015, 07:45 PM

Read the article today I'm always surprised how well mists do in these test. I don't know if I would want to be seen in one but I would love to drive one. Also, it seems like this generation vetted has serious track reliability issues.

Petlizard · 10-01-2015, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RSXDC5

WOW, is this a joke? The lexus rcf is in the test but not the m3/m4?!?!?!?!

They had in the 2014 competition. It came in 5th.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...t_drivers_car/

cektank · 10-01-2015, 09:44 PM

I personally cant wait for next year when they compare c63s coupe and the m4 competition package.

Wheelwright · 10-01-2015, 10:33 PM

Do we live in some kind of bizarro world ? How can a huge limousine like CTS-V achieve time comparable to Porsche's GT4 which is a hardcore track weapon with heavy clutch, belt strap door openers and no air conditioning ? There was only about a second difference between the 2 cars. I suspect the Porsche completely screwed-up GT4 handling by dialing in way too much understeer.

cektank · 10-02-2015, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wheelwright

Do we live in some kind of bizarro world ? How can a huge limousine like CTS-V achieve time comparable to Porsche's GT4 which is a hardcore track weapon with heavy clutch, belt strap door openers and no air conditioning ? There was only about a second difference between the 2 cars. I suspect the Porsche completely screwed-up GT4 handling by dialing in way too much understeer.

Or maybe its the huge power difference.

JsL · 10-02-2015, 02:03 AM

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Or maybe its the huge power difference.

Maybe Porsche did tune the car down? It was also mentioned in the video that 2nd gear redlines at 85mph?! Why so tall for a track focused car? Was the track they were focusing on a NASCAR oval track?

DocWeatherington · 10-02-2015, 02:18 AM

I think BMW is pissed at all the positive-ness of the C63s and the AMG GTS ... BMW please respond and take more of my money.

A win for Mazda... I could only think of what could happen if Mazda dropped 10k worth of go fast parts in the Miata. Time will tell how the Fiat 124 moves the chassis forward.

Props to MB..

GM.. fail, the ZO6/Z07 is having a #*@(!& year

FC4 · 10-02-2015, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wheelwright

Do we live in some kind of bizarro world ? How can a huge limousine like CTS-V achieve time comparable to Porsche's GT4 which is a hardcore track weapon with heavy clutch, belt strap door openers and no air conditioning ? There was only about a second difference between the 2 cars. I suspect the Porsche completely screwed-up GT4 handling by dialing in way too much understeer.

Regardless of what people say on the Internet, power does indeed matter quite a bit on a track.

IEDEI · 10-02-2015, 04:59 AM

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Randy saying the AMG GT-S was the best handling car he has ever driven, is very high praise. The guy has driven everything.

that guy doesn't know his ass from his elbow....he always flip flops...he is probably paid to say that.

FC4 · 10-02-2015, 05:13 AM

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that guy doesn't know his ass from his elbow....he always flip flops...he is probably paid to say that.

Agreed...he's an assclown. Last I heard, he's on thin ice with MT and they're looking for his replacement. You should really drop em a line on LinkedIn or send in your resume.

buddalun · 10-02-2015, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by IEDEI

that guy doesn't know his ass from his elbow....he always flip flops...he is probably paid to say that.

Agreed.

Mingwan · 10-02-2015, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Wheelwright

Do we live in some kind of bizarro world ? How can a huge limousine like CTS-V achieve time comparable to Porsche's GT4 which is a hardcore track weapon with heavy clutch, belt strap door openers and no air conditioning ? There was only about a second difference between the 2 cars. I suspect the Porsche completely screwed-up GT4 handling by dialing in way too much understeer.

I was actually more surprised at how the gt4 managed to get a faster time than the ctsv. And not just because of the massive difference in power output.

rjd598 · 10-02-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

I think BMW is pissed at all the positive-ness of the C63s and the AMG GTS ... BMW please respond and take more of my money.

A win for Mazda... I could only think of what could happen if Mazda dropped 10k worth of go fast parts in the Miata. Time will tell how the Fiat 124 moves the chassis forward.

Props to MB..

GM.. fail, the ZO6/Z07 is having a #*@(!& year

why would bmw be pissed at the c63? the results are still the same as last gen's outcomes. the cars are meant for different people and they do different things.

there is no amg gt s comparison for bmw.

TXSTYLE · 10-02-2015, 10:55 AM

Yep. Read my subscription issue last week. I am VERY surprised at the awkwardly designed (very long hood and front-end biased) Benz handles so well! That is something for MB to hang their hat on for sure.

pukicabuki · 10-02-2015, 06:52 PM

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Yep. Read my subscription issue last week. I am VERY surprised at the awkwardly designed (very long hood and front-end biased) Benz handles so well! That is something for MB to hang their hat on for sure.

It's a 47/53 weight distribution. Where did you come up with front end biased?

TXSTYLE · 10-02-2015, 07:20 PM

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It's a 47/53 weight distribution. Where did you come up with front end biased?

I meant "looks" front heavy bruh.

DocWeatherington · 10-02-2015, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

why would bmw be pissed at the c63? the results are still the same as last gen's outcomes. the cars are meant for different people and they do different things.

there is no amg gt s comparison for bmw.

Pissed because the C63s is winning reviews and in certain instances posted better numbers..

Its like sibling rivalry... I think the Comp Pack will be the equalizer to the "S"..

An the GT S.. is a slap in the face lol

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