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02-17-2016, 11:55 AM | #23 | |
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It's the same exact area of the C-Pillar where people would turn their 1992-1999 Mercedes-Benz S320's into S600's, by improper placement of the V12 badge in the center of the pillar, instead of what was the correct - and more discrete placement - by the lower edge of the rear door window. Last edited by dbs600; 02-17-2016 at 06:27 PM.. |
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From a supplier perspective, all the ///M cars (unless the F85/86 are like the E70/71; those were NOT developed or manufactured under BMW M GmbH), M550d, and some BMW Individual Manufaktur. Technically they also oversee the Alpina Production line for B7 and US/Canada bound B6 Gran Coupe, however those particular vehicles in those two markets are documented and imported as BMW 750ix and BMW 650ix models manufactured by BMW AG. I also believe BMW M, managed initial production of the Rolls Royce Phantom aluminium bodies initially. Though the M135i, M235i, X4 M40i are in the Portfolio, they are deemed manufactured by BMW AG/USA. Some X5/6 M50d might be depending on the factory. |
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02-17-2016, 09:26 PM | #28 | |
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My car is a 2011 750Li xDrive Individual. Thought it was manufactured by BMW M, as BMW Individual is supposedly a subset of same, but my VIN begins with WBA, not WBS. Strange. I imagine a 550i and an M5 start off at the same plant for their bodies, but are you saying the finished 550i rolls off a different line than the M5 (not simply that the M5 components are engineered and built by BMW M and met on the F10 assembly line or in a different area of the same F10 plant)? Thoughts as to why there would are separate divisions on a corporate entity level, not just a department level? Seems odd. I understand why plants may be under different entities - for liability purposes - but BMW AG has multiple plants without separate entities regardless. I wonder which Individual vehicles would be built by BMW M, why they were and why mine was not. Last, if the M135 and M235's are built by BMW AG (not BMW M), I suspect the M760 would be too, no? Still don't get why BMW is going this weird route, watering down the M brand without being true M cars. Cheers! |
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02-17-2016, 09:40 PM | #29 | |
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It seems like they can throw around the "BMW M GmbH" around however they please. I would have expected that they keep the "BMW M GmbH" manufacture designation for the real ///M models and not just arbitrarily allow the M Performance models to carry it too.
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02-17-2016, 10:19 PM | #31 |
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An F10 Body in white is the same for all the models. M5 will have a different body/drivetrain mating position though as the rear subframe is welded directly to the body on the M rather than bolted as other 5er. Useless fact: Fxx M5/6 have the rear subframe from the E60 M5 directly carried over. At Dingolfing for example, you can have a 7, 3, 4, M6, 520, etc all roll out in succession. There are also models built in one plant to completion, only to be shipped off to another plant to be disassembled and modified, the X5 and 5er Security models for example. They're either built in Spartanburg, X5, or transit through there, 5er, and then sent to the Toluca Mexico plant for armoring and equipment installation, and finally shipped back to Spartanburg for distribution. Only the 7 High Security and F18 LWB Security are built at the originating factory. It's not any different than Magna Styern being utilized for production capacity other than its in house under the same umbrella. |
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02-18-2016, 01:26 AM | #34 |
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Thanks for all the info!
One day before European Delivery I toured the M Studio with an escort and tracked an M3 with its rear chassis engineer, after which I somewhat regretted my 750 purchase, which I hadn't yet seen; HA! |
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Aren't all X5 and X6 cars produced in Spartanburg? The X1 is produced in Regensburg and the new G01 X3 will be produced in both Spartanburg and Rosslyn.
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02-19-2016, 11:29 PM | #37 | |
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Are we saying that will be different for the M760, which is not an M car? It's an M Performance car. P.S. -- Cars made in the US do not use the same system. |
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02-19-2016, 11:32 PM | #38 |
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I didn't know that because Spartanburg always touts themselves as producing all X cars (except for the X1) for the entire world.
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The first ///M car with WBS was the E30 M3. The wives tale that "true" ///M cars have to have WBS has never been true. This one has me stumped though. There have been ///M vehicles that were not branded and marketed as such (850CSi and Z8 being the most recent), but I cannot recall any ///M-Technik or more recently ///M Performance cars that kept the marketing designation and had anything like this "package" offered. The people that know don't even like being asked the question which leads to the suggestion that there is some internal reasoning that not everyone agrees with. Even the images released are strange. The first interior image is an actual pic, but the last two are renderings that don't match. |
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