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      03-13-2009, 03:04 AM   #23
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I have driven the exact same route about an hour earlier in an MB S550 4Matic AMG version and the 750 was definitely faster, smoother and quieter. I enjoyed the ride a lot more in the 750 than the S550, hence my final purchase decision. I should also note that I drove an Audi S8 earlier that day and all I can say is that I would rate the Audi in 3rd place FAR behind the 750 and S550...

Im so glad to hear this....I belive u... since u drove all three of them...
1st place currently the NEW 7er 2nd place Mercedes and far faaaar faaaaaar somewhere on third audi
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This thread is full of BS

The amount of BS in this thread is beyond beleavable for me.
First, "US' first test" doesn't mean "world's first test". Magazines in the UK and Germany and many others have published reviews of the new 750i months ago
Secondly, I am surprised by BS statements by Inside Lane, which I would normally call unbiased and very reliable, as to how 750i competes with S 63 AMG. There simply is no competition, both performance- and price wise. The AMG would blow this 7 into dust. But come on, that is why BMW is making the 760 V12 Twinturbo.
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Im so glad to hear this....I belive u... since u drove all three of them...
1st place currently the NEW 7er 2nd place Mercedes and far faaaar faaaaaar somewhere on third audi
Don't get me wrong, they are all nice cars, but for my personal taste, the interior of either the S550 or S8 didn't do it at all. Same goes for the previous model 750, I did not like the interior of the older model either. The new 750 has come a LONG way.
Anyway, as I stated earlier, for my personal taste, the new 750 is comfier and technologically more advanced than any of the other two cars I had compared. I had a fun time test driving them all, but at the end of the day, you pick what you like best and that's what I did
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The amount of BS in this thread is beyond beleavable for me.
First, "US' first test" doesn't mean "world's first test". Magazines in the UK and Germany and many others have published reviews of the new 750i months ago
Secondly, I am surprised by BS statements by Inside Lane, which I would normally call unbiased and very reliable, as to how 750i competes with S 63 AMG. There simply is no competition, both performance- and price wise. The AMG would blow this 7 into dust. But come on, that is why BMW is making the 760 V12 Twinturbo.
Did you READ the article? They got the same 0-60 time out of the 750 as the S63 and the 750 did the slalom 3 miles per hour FASTER.
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The amount of BS in this thread is beyond beleavable for me.
First, "US' first test" doesn't mean "world's first test". Magazines in the UK and Germany and many others have published reviews of the new 750i months ago
Secondly, I am surprised by BS statements by Inside Lane, which I would normally call unbiased and very reliable, as to how 750i competes with S 63 AMG. There simply is no competition, both performance- and price wise. The AMG would blow this 7 into dust. But come on, that is why BMW is making the 760 V12 Twinturbo.
A 'Review' is NOT the same as a 'Test'!

You are correct that there have been other 'reviews' of this car from other magazines, newspapers, TV shows, you name it. But did they do an in depth TEST as what edmunds just posted (e.g. acceleration, braking, skidpad, slalom, etc). They may not be the first to test the car, who knows when they actually did the testing?!?

Also, since you believe that Edmunds and Inside lane seem to be full of BS (to use your verbiage), can you share with us on what you base your conclusions and your knowledge of these cars compared to those that have actually reviewed/tested these cars???

As to the 760 TTV12 statement, I think that would be a far better and fair comparison between the upcoming 760 and the S63. In my opinion (and I have already stated that somewhere earlier), the 750 should be compared to the S550 not the S63!
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      03-14-2009, 09:12 AM   #29
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yeah u cant really compare the 750 and the S63 more like 750 vs the S500 , 0r the 760 vs the S600 or S63 not in any way the S65 which in my opinion is MILES AWAY from ANY BMW
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yeah u cant really compare the 750 and the S63 more like 750 vs the S500 , 0r the 760 vs the S600 or S63 not in any way the S65 which in my opinion is MILES AWAY from ANY BMW
If you are talking about the S65 being miles away in the BMW's rear view mirror, your absolutely right

Just Joking

But if you look at the premium you pay for the S63 or the S65 and how many they sell, just like the SLR...

Besides the S63 and S65 are AMG versions, so in all fairness, you would have to compare those to M versions of the BMW (if they ever decide to come out with M versions of the 750 and 760)!

So as you said, you should compare the 750 with the EQUIVALENT car from MB and that means you have to compare the 750 to a regular car and NOT the AMG versions! After all, the AMG versions are tuned versions and the regular 750 is NOT. So IMHO, you would have to compare the 750 to the S550 (about the same HP/Torque). The 750 has 400 hp @ 5500 rpm and 450 lb-ft @ 1750–4500rpm, the S550 has 382 hp @ 6000 rpm and 391 lb-ft @ 2,800-4,800 rpm. The 750 does the run of 0-100km/h in 5.2 sec the S550 in 5.4 sec. So those are pretty close in engine performance and acceleration. Now technologically speaking, the BMW is an entire generation ahead (since it is a new model and the MB is a few years old), but this will get evened out with the next generation S series.

I found it absolutely hilarious when the sales guy at MB told me that in this latest (2009) model year of the S class, you can now control the radio or CD via voice control and it FINALLY has Bluetooth integration. My other BMW and previous car had that feature for many years. The S class still doesn't have an entertainment system for the rear seats.

Then there is the base price difference and once you add all the equivalent options between the BMW and the MB (again 750 vs. S550), you save a BUNDLE (we are talking $40k-$50k). I find it funny when people compare cars but don't consider all the REAL differences!

Now for those that still want to compare the standard 750 vs the S63, they SHOULD really compare the S63 to the Alpina B7 (or an M version of the 750 if they ever decide to make one). But then again, you are still comparing a 4.4l vs 6.2l engine and an $80k+ 750 vs a $130k+ S63... get the point?
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      03-14-2009, 04:46 PM   #31
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If you are talking about the S65 being miles away in the BMW's rear view mirror, your absolutely right

Just Joking

But if you look at the premium you pay for the S63 or the S65 and how many they sell, just like the SLR...

Besides the S63 and S65 are AMG versions, so in all fairness, you would have to compare those to M versions of the BMW (if they ever decide to come out with M versions of the 750 and 760)!

So as you said, you should compare the 750 with the EQUIVALENT car from MB and that means you have to compare the 750 to a regular car and NOT the AMG versions! After all, the AMG versions are tuned versions and the regular 750 is NOT. So IMHO, you would have to compare the 750 to the S550 (about the same HP/Torque). The 750 has 400 hp @ 5500 rpm and 450 lb-ft @ 1750–4500rpm, the S550 has 382 hp @ 6000 rpm and 391 lb-ft @ 2,800-4,800 rpm. The 750 does the run of 0-100km/h in 5.2 sec the S550 in 5.4 sec. So those are pretty close in engine performance and acceleration. Now technologically speaking, the BMW is an entire generation ahead (since it is a new model and the MB is a few years old), but this will get evened out with the next generation S series.

I found it absolutely hilarious when the sales guy at MB told me that in this latest (2009) model year of the S class, you can now control the radio or CD via voice control and it FINALLY has Bluetooth integration. My other BMW and previous car had that feature for many years. The S class still doesn't have an entertainment system for the rear seats.

Then there is the base price difference and once you add all the equivalent options between the BMW and the MB (again 750 vs. S550), you save a BUNDLE (we are talking $40k-$50k). I find it funny when people compare cars but don't consider all the REAL differences!

Now for those that still want to compare the standard 750 vs the S63, they SHOULD really compare the S63 to the Alpina B7 (or an M version of the 750 if they ever decide to make one). But then again, you are still comparing a 4.4l vs 6.2l engine and an $80k+ 750 vs a $130k+ S63... get the point?
I know....u cant compare the AMGs to regular BMWs....u can compare AMG to M....but since they dont have one (and I dont understand why) ( in 20 days well have X6 n X5M ?!)...people start to make these rivals between AMG and ghost M7 which in this case is just a regular 750 and not even 760 yet!....talk about a performance and everything the S63 and S65 are better in every way and why? BMW does not have M versions of the 7er , not even one....Alpina is something else...but if u wanna go that way then IT should go like this...
it should be fair
750 vs S550
760 vs S600
S63 vs Alpina B7
S65 vs Alpina B7 ( maybe a more powerful version when 760 arrives ) 500horses cant go with 600plus in this case so u really need a bigger engine based on the 760 and plenty of more horsepower not to menchain massive truck torque of 1000Nm...u get it?
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I know....u cant compare the AMGs to regular BMWs....u can compare AMG to M....but since they dont have one (and I dont understand why) ( in 20 days well have X6 n X5M ?!)...people start to make these rivals between AMG and ghost M7 which in this case is just a regular 750 and not even 760 yet!....talk about a performance and everything the S63 and S65 are better in every way and why? BMW does not have M versions of the 7er , not even one....Alpina is something else...but if u wanna go that way then IT should go like this...
it should be fair
750 vs S550
760 vs S600
S63 vs Alpina B7
S65 vs Alpina B7 ( maybe a more powerful version when 760 arrives ) 500horses cant go with 600plus in this case so u really need a bigger engine based on the 760 and plenty of more horsepower not to menchain massive truck torque of 1000Nm...u get it?
That's EXACTLY what I was talking about

Although, we have to wait and see what BMW does with the 760 in regards to the engine and THEN we can update the above list again. I wonder if BMW used the old V12 and simply bolted on two turbos or if they did something similar to what they did on the 50 version. They used a smaller displacement engine (the 4.4l) and based on the output (with the help of the turbos) called it a 5.0l equivalent engine. Did they do that on the upcoming V12TT 760 too???

From BMW point of view, I guess they are looking at more efficient engines rather than building the same engine with more output by adding the turbos (hence the new trend in 'virtual' displacement designations). Now if they truly wanted to have an answer to the S65, then I agree with you, they would need to have a true V12TT 6.0l engine they would have to pack under the hood of the new 760. The only problem I see is space and cooling. If you look at the engine compartment of the current 750 with it's V8TT 4.4l engine, there is NO room for ANYTHING else. It's packed! So where would they get the extra space needed for the additional displacement?

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i dont normally like big ass cars, but the new 7 is just plain teh sex...not a fan of the kindeys, but hey no car is perfect
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