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      11-25-2014, 03:05 PM   #177
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So Scott, is that the G11 that we see heavily pixellated on the iDrive screen?

Yes it is.
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      11-25-2014, 04:13 PM   #178
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Looks like it does indeed have the hockey stick shaped aluminum trim along the side skirts inspired from the VFL Concept

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Looks like it does indeed have the hockey stick shaped aluminum trim along the side skirts inspired from the VFL Concept

Yes it incorporates the AirBreather.
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      11-25-2014, 05:11 PM   #180
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BMW finally realized Lexus was whooping their asses in the telematics category. GOOD job guys. Ten years later.
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WOW, there is more negative reaction from you guys, than from me a BMW "hater". I actually like what I'm seeing. It is going to be interesting, how all turns out, also with the other competitors, like Panamera, XJ, A8 and underdog LS.
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Yes it incorporates the AirBreather.
Scott26 why doesnt the rear lights for the G11 use the OLED rear lights that are seen on the future vision concept?





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That Technology will be introduced later.
Although the 7er will be available as an option with BMW laser-Light technology.
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IPad in the dash. Fail. Dont they listen to the magazine reviews?
Have you driven an F-model with these high def screens? I was initially skeptical (having owned a half dozen E9x) but my F15's interior was an absolute pleasure.

Honestly- I'd wait for the final product before declaring this thing DOA.
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Having seen the new S class last week, and thoroughly enjoying the interior appointments and refined electronics... I can say with some disappointment that the new 7 series does not seem to be in the same class as the S class. Not very impressive so far.
Agree 100%.

The new S class is in a whole other world compared with the 7.

As a hardcore BMW nut, this is quite a bummer to admit.
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I dont care what sort of technology the new 7 series will come with. The interior looks exactly like my girlfriend's 2 series BMW. This stupid screen that looks like an iPad is so ugly, I wont even buy a new BMW until they get rid of it.
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I dont care what sort of technology the new 7 series will come with. The interior looks exactly like my girlfriend's 2 series BMW. This stupid screen that looks like an iPad is so ugly, I wont even buy a new BMW until they get rid of it.
Guess you won't be buying anything German for the foreseeable future then...
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That Technology will be introduced later.
Although the 7er will be available as an option with BMW laser-Light technology.
Scott,
Why not introduce it from the launch? Other manufactures are already ahead of the curve, doesn't BMW want to stay relevant? Instead of waiting for LCI or whatever this needs to be a now thing. Benz is killing you guys for this EXACT reason. 2 years later to introduce trending technology is unacceptable. You guys are pushing dual core technology in a quad core world bro.
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That Technology will be introduced later.
Although the 7er will be available as an option with BMW laser-Light technology.
Scott,
Why not introduce it from the launch? Other manufactures are already ahead of the curve, doesn't BMW want to stay relevant? Instead of waiting for LCI or whatever this needs to be a now thing. Benz is killing you guys for this EXACT reason. 2 years later to introduce trending technology is unacceptable. You guys are pushing dual core technology in a quad core world bro.
Has the OLED lights been used in other brands? It seems to me that Mercedes and Audi are stilling using "boring" LEDs while BMW has offered laser lights for the i8 and upcoming 7 series. Who's ahead of the curve?
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I heard that the Bowers & Wilkins System will now be offered on the G11 as an upgrade option instead of the Bang & Olufsen. Scott26, any insight as to why BMW switched vendors? Was it just a contract thing? I just hope they don't jack up the price on the future Bowers & Wilkins systems.
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There is no cost-cutting here , in early prototypes fit and finish do not matter especially when the focus is on chassis or drivetrain development.
They may use the actual design but they are rapid produced parts which means quality is not an issue but to see if everything fits together and works. Later development models will indicate production specifications.

All Prototypes are hand built on a dedicated off-site production line in Munich.
Personally despite its quality the S-Klasse interior is too cluttered and looks like a 1980s home cinema the way the screens are stacked together.

The new BMW interior philosophy as introduced on the X5 and BMWi cars is to apply surfaces to accommodate next generation connected drive passenger display and extra minimalism to give the impression of a modern lounge. But keep that driver focused essence of a BMW. It also reduces many functions so that the driver can concentrate on the road.
It also allows extra space and more light into the cabin.

You have not seen the full picture yet.
What most people don't realize is the difference in philosphies between the Mercedes S-Class and the BMW 7-Series. The S-Class is a car that you want to get driven around in. It oozes luxury, especially focused in the back seat. The 7-Series is the big luxury sedan that you want to drive yourself. The focus is in the drivers seat. With the greatly lightened chassis in the next 7-Series, it'll be much more a drivers focused car than the S-Class can ever be. BMW's in general have always been about the driving experience not the riding experience in the back seat.
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Has the OLED lights been used in other brands? It seems to me that Mercedes and Audi are stilling using "boring" LEDs while BMW has offered laser lights for the i8 and upcoming 7 series. Who's ahead of the curve?
Well, other than M3/M4, 6er, 5er, X5/X6, none of them has laser but the "boring" LED, and the 2er doesn't even have that.

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I heard that the Bowers & Wilkins System will now be offered on the G11 as an upgrade option instead of the Bang & Olufsen. Scott26, any insight as to why BMW switched vendors? Was it just a contract thing? I just hope they don't jack up the price on the future Bowers & Wilkins systems.
B&W is what Jaguar and Maserati have. Not sure it is "better" than B&O.

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What most people don't realize is the difference in philosphies between the Mercedes S-Class and the BMW 7-Series. The S-Class is a car that you want to get driven around in. It oozes luxury, especially focused in the back seat. The 7-Series is the big luxury sedan that you want to drive yourself. The focus is in the drivers seat. With the greatly lightened chassis in the next 7-Series, it'll be much more a drivers focused car than the S-Class can ever be. BMW's in general have always been about the driving experience not the riding experience in the back seat.
And despite being a so called driver's car, BMW still refuses to build an M7, and prefers an X5 M. Go figure...
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Scott,
Why not introduce it from the launch? Other manufactures are already ahead of the curve, doesn't BMW want to stay relevant? Instead of waiting for LCI or whatever this needs to be a now thing. Benz is killing you guys for this EXACT reason. 2 years later to introduce trending technology is unacceptable. You guys are pushing dual core technology in a quad core world bro.
No car manufacter has OLED lights. BMW was the first to use laser lights. Also benz is killing nothing all they are is just taxis vans and buses. BMW have always been a step ahead look at the X6.. even merc is making a copy cat version of it and viewing from spyshots and concepts it looks butt ugly.
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What most people don't realize is the difference in philosphies between the Mercedes S-Class and the BMW 7-Series. The S-Class is a car that you want to get driven around in. It oozes luxury, especially focused in the back seat. The 7-Series is the big luxury sedan that you want to drive yourself. The focus is in the drivers seat. With the greatly lightened chassis in the next 7-Series, it'll be much more a drivers focused car than the S-Class can ever be. BMW's in general have always been about the driving experience not the riding experience in the back seat.
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Well, other than M3/M4, 6er, 5er, X5/X6, none of them has laser but the "boring" LED, and the 2er doesn't even have that.



B&W is what Jaguar and Maserati have. Not sure it is "better" than B&O.



And despite being a so called driver's car, BMW still refuses to build an M7, and prefers an X5 M. Go figure...
No M7 cause of the Alpina B7.. but i still think it will come eventually. 760Li last gen was faster than the S63 AMG. the new 760 will probably be even faster..
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Has the OLED lights been used in other brands? It seems to me that Mercedes and Audi are stilling using "boring" LEDs while BMW has offered laser lights for the i8 and upcoming 7 series. Who's ahead of the curve?
The new Audi R8 has them....
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I heard that the Bowers & Wilkins System will now be offered on the G11 as an upgrade option instead of the Bang & Olufsen. Scott26, any insight as to why BMW switched vendors? Was it just a contract thing? I just hope they don't jack up the price on the future Bowers & Wilkins systems.
The BW system is awesome, my XJ has it and I find it superior to the B&O I tested in the potential M6 GC I pondered on.
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No car manufacter has OLED lights. BMW was the first to use laser lights. Also benz is killing nothing all they are is just taxis vans and buses. BMW have always been a step ahead look at the X6.. even merc is making a copy cat version of it and viewing from spyshots and concepts it looks butt ugly.
LMAO if you truly beleive that you have as little taste as you do an inkling of what makes a great car. The 7 series has sucked ass since the E38 period. MB has designed and executed a true luxury car with world class engines.
The 7 series isn't a luxury car anymore, it's a piss poor attempt at looking flashy.
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Well, other than M3/M4, 6er, 5er, X5/X6, none of them has laser but the "boring" LED, and the 2er doesn't even have that.



B&W is what Jaguar and Maserati have. Not sure it is "better" than B&O.



And despite being a so called driver's car, BMW still refuses to build an M7, and prefers an X5 M. Go figure...

B&W is better than B&O, that's a fact every audiophile and sound engineer know. So that is a good thing
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Well, other than M3/M4, 6er, 5er, X5/X6, none of them has laser but the "boring" LED, and the 2er doesn't even have that.



B&W is what Jaguar and Maserati have. Not sure it is "better" than B&O.



And despite being a so called driver's car, BMW still refuses to build an M7, and prefers an X5 M. Go figure...
In regards to that interview with BMW North America product planning on an M7 that has recently been posted. As you have read previously how M are in favour of such a car. But the G11 is not on sale until late next year and then we have to establish the car in order to judge reaction whether there is potential for such a car. Many at M think the M7 should come because of the advances regarding lightweight technology within the car as it is fitting to be expanded on at M.
Sales response will determine that.

BMW did not prefer the X5M and X6 M over an M7.
The customer demanded them and the segment demands them .
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