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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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04-05-2016, 12:28 AM | #134 |
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Bolt looks pretty sad to.
Bolt looks pretty sad to.
No Frunk and some articles say they beat Telsa to the punch for an affordable 200 mile range electric. but that car isn't close to the performance or claimed performance of the model 3, and costs more to. There won't be any lines or 300k pre orders for it I would guess. Last edited by ctuna; 04-05-2016 at 03:11 AM.. |
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In about a year I'll be able to walk into my local Chevy dealer, test drive a Bolt, and drive it off the lot, while Telsa will be probably doing another fund me presentation on the internet with excuses why the T3 is another year late to production. Maybe by then Tesla will have one in the Tyson's Corner Mall "dealership" that I can go look at in static display and see how unimpressive the interior is. By any account, both personal and via media, every review I've read or heard about, the Volt does exactly what it was designed to do and exceeds at meeting both its electric range and fuel consumption targets in the real world. Considering the team at GM who is designing the Bolt and taking it to production is the same team that designed and put the Volt into production, I have much more confidence that the Bolt will meet or exceed its design targets and will be in production by the target date GM has announced (late 2016).
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04-05-2016, 08:32 AM | #136 |
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I do agree with you on your points. However, there is one thing that is missing from your perspective.
You MUST go drive a Model S. It is a completely different experience from what you have driven in the past, and will change your opinion. Note that this opinion comes from somebody that has driven every BMW, I have owned a 2007 335i, 2007 Z4M, 2006 330xi, 2011 335d. Driving the Tesla made those cars feel archaic and so unnecessary. It brought me to the point of I wanted to drive electric, but could not afford a Model S. I ended up with a Volt, that does that I need it to do. But I still dream about owning a Tesla, and the Model 3 will get me there.
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04-05-2016, 01:16 PM | #137 |
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This article kind of sums it up nicely
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Yes, Tesla marketing has succeeded. It's now clearly a prestige brand. In addition to making amazing cars, it's more importantly cool.
Like I don't understand why anyone is comparing a Tesla 3 to a Bolt. A Bolt competes with Toyota, and it is ugly. A Tesla is cool and everyone wants to have the cool stuff. |
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This will never make any sense, reality is if you could produce a lot of power with a solar panel the size of the car roof you would just put it somewhere on your house/property, it would never be in the shade, and would last 15 years with almost no chance you would want to replace it or it would get damaged (or at least far less chance than the top of your car). Then with the one on your roof you don't care if it is flat, heavy, doesn't look perfect, etc.
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04-06-2016, 10:27 AM | #144 |
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Take a look at the supercharger network, and the destination charger network. I will have no problems finding chargers for my destinations.
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04-06-2016, 03:24 PM | #145 |
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Not sure if this column's been linked yet in this thread (I missed it if it had), but it sums up my thoughts pretty much exactly:
http://driving.ca/tesla/model-s/auto...l-aid-just-yet |
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I figure with 6 "gas stations" in my state it would be a last resort only.
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Maybe move to Canada, there are actually thousands of places you can charge.
http://chargehub.com/Charging-Stations-Map.html Last edited by MightyMouseTech; 04-06-2016 at 04:59 PM.. |
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I'm sure there are stations on every rural & back road across the nation for when you want to take the scenic route. Oh wait, nope!
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Even then best case is at a Supercharger (how many of these thousands are Superchargers?) I sit there for 30 minutes so I can drive another 170 miles to the next charger. I think for a lot of driving an electric car makes sense but if you regularly drive long distances it would be a huge mistake.
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Although, on our local car forum, there is a guy with a Tesla Roadster and a Model S. Several times a week he is driving between Ottawa, Montreal and Toronto. He does not seem to have any problems doing that several times a week. |
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Unfortunately this is a reality. That is why people have electric cars as a second vehicle until that problem is solved. It sure would be nice not to have to take my motorcycle in order to drive in the car pool lane though, for some people this can save a lot of time and frustration everyday.
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Volt still remains the most practical of all the plug-ins. With the Volt you won't have the need to have a second car for making long trips. Until battery tech advances and you can charge your Telsa as fast as filling your car up with gas. The Volt will always have its own market.
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