Full LCD Gauges Coming to Facelift 5-series and 7-series

Jason · 05-25-2011, 06:42 PM

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Full LCD Gauges Coming to Facelift 5-series and 7-series

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Damon Lavrinc at Autoblog brings news about full customizable LCD gauge displays coming to the "refreshed" 5-series and 7-series, which we take to mean the facelift / LCI versions of the current models - supposedly within 2 years time.

It appears that BMW's two largest sedans will transition from black panel displays to full digital LCD displays where the tachometer, speedometer, fuel meter, and temperature gauge will all take a digital form. The display may also be customized to display navigation and infotainment info and take on different looks appropriate for the car being in sport or comfort mode.

We'll lament the extinction of the physical needle and gauges in the F10 and F01, but we suspected that it was only a matter of time before full LCD gauges worked their way into BMW's top sedan models.

Source: Autoblog

bobblehead · 05-25-2011, 06:56 PM

Damn, meaning my 2011 F10 is already obsolete.

TheBingoBalls · 05-25-2011, 07:04 PM

Although full LCD gauges look cool, I prefer the needle gauges. The digital gauges look a little gimmicky.

pyrat · 05-25-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

Damn, meaning my 2011 F10 is already obsolete.

wow, true.

I think these LCD displays are the coolest thing. I want a video of it in action

lakerpride05 · 05-25-2011, 07:04 PM

Sweet! Just in time when I turn in my 2 year lease.

Might have to stick with the F10 if enough goodies like this come out!

jmcphillips1 · 05-25-2011, 07:08 PM

The range rover already has this so this is not very surprising.

Space Ghost · 05-25-2011, 07:10 PM

Real gauges going the way of a real dipstick. One more thing to break, malfunction etc.

bmwdinamo · 05-25-2011, 07:16 PM

I don't really like them so far ( the jaguar mostly) but I'm sure BMW will be the first one to do this correct with high resolution display

ibimmer954 · 05-25-2011, 07:22 PM

I fail to see how this is progress unless you can choose between a couple different display "themes". If not, then I'm really skeptical this is a good idea. Only a cost-cutting move.

wontonbomb · 05-25-2011, 07:22 PM

Drove my father's S550 with the LCD guage, couldn't even tell the difference. But MBZ's display was sooo bland.

pyrat · 05-25-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwdinamo

I don't really like them so far ( the jaguar mostly) but I'm sure BMW will be the first one to do this correct with high resolution display

those who have used them, do they give the same effect of motion that a real needle has. I imagine this would be hard to replicate, perhaps a slight intentional blurring around the needle to simulate speed as it runs through the RPMs - or maybe I am dreaming and this is just destine to be boring

I feel very old school lately, people generally hate old school people

pyrat · 05-25-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ibimmer346

I fail to see how this is progress unless you can choose between a couple different display "themes". If not, then I'm really skeptical this is a good idea. Only a cost-cutting move.

wouldn't the LCD displays be very expensive? Seems that needles would be much cheaper to me

The Guy · 05-25-2011, 07:49 PM

Haha I can see it now. You will be able to hack and download new themes for your for your display gauges.

greekcs · 05-25-2011, 07:52 PM

Looking forward to dead pixels.

ES BMW · 05-25-2011, 07:59 PM

I'll bet once Mini gets this handed down that they'll have a way to upload in image from your iPhone for a custom background.

I'm going to miss those needles.

sparoz · 05-25-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pyrat

wouldn't the LCD displays be very expensive? Seems that needles would be much cheaper to me

My suspicion is that it will be cheaper. Mechanical gauge still have physical linkage. While digital gauge can do without any of them. All parameters are being measured anyway by the computer - hence I see it is a cost saving.

MikeyComputers · 05-25-2011, 08:04 PM

wow thats is ugly... saw it on the new jag thought it was stupid

npd2983 · 05-25-2011, 08:45 PM

Hope it is designed so polarized sunglasses don't make the whole display disappear...

TheBry · 05-26-2011, 08:40 PM

I think the full LCD panel cheapens the experience.

Looking at it sideways and seeing that smooth panel feels kitschy. The current design is, IMHO really great, because the partial gauge rings and mechanical indicator needles give texture and depth to the dash. Those elements "anchor" the intent of the dash.

Having a flat panel (inappropriately) frees the dash from delivering on the 'expected' --> providing RPM, speedo, etc. data in a familiar, instantly recognizable construct.

Don't like the full flat panel at all. Hope this is just a test, and not a preview of where they're taking things.

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TheBry Major 139 Rep 1,021 Posts Drives: 2016 G12 750i xDrive Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Francisco, California iTrader: (0)	I think the full LCD panel cheapens the experience. Looking at it sideways and seeing that smooth panel feels kitschy. The current design is, IMHO really great, because the partial gauge rings and mechanical indicator needles give texture and depth to the dash. Those elements "anchor" the intent of the dash. Having a flat panel (inappropriately) frees the dash from delivering on the 'expected' --> providing RPM, speedo, etc. data in a familiar, instantly recognizable construct. Don't like the full flat panel at all. Hope this is just a test, and not a preview of where they're taking things. __________________ Past: 2008 M3 (E93) naturally aspirated V8 realness! Past: 2012 740Li (F02) M-Sport (European Delivery) Present: 2016 750i (G12) M-Sport Last edited by TheBry; 06-01-2011 at 03:16 PM.. Reason: Original post was clipped
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