F1 2024: Japanese GP - Suzuka (Apr 7)

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by toxik

i feel bad for any of my fellow US fans that stayed up til 2-3 am to watch this race

Indeed the pressure on Sargeant must have been immense knowing that his teammate was shyzered into the tyres and he alone was carrying the standard for Williams.

[M5Rick]

With the new tub not available until May, Williams are again under pressure to get a repair on Albons tub (that is if it was the one that was damaged before) by China and with it already being repaired before it could be unsafe to repair again, so it may be that Sergeant again misses a race.
The stewards decided that the collision with RIC's car was a racing incident.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/26902...until-may.html

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

With the new tub not available until May, Williams are again under pressure to get a repair on Albons tub (that is if it was the one that was damaged before) by China and with it already being repaired before it could be unsafe to repair again, so it may be that Sergeant again misses a race.
The stewards decided that the collision with RIC's car was a racing incident.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/26902...until-may.html

Is Williams that deep in money trouble? Can't afford a spare tub?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Is Williams that deep in money trouble? Can't afford a spare tub?

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[G MONEY]

Yawn X 1,000,000. Best part of the race was lap 1. I was flipping back and forth between the race and the Weather channel

[Autobacs]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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No surprise with Ferrari. Getting Vettel after he was beaten by RIC (the RIC of old), letting go of Sainz, and now getting HAM when he looks like he is past his peak.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Is Williams that deep in money trouble? Can't afford a spare tub?

Vowles says that its an 'overload' with their system adding to the complexity of the car.
What I take that to mean is that clearly they haven't the resources of teams like RBR and Ferrari hence are lagging in that area taking a chance and skipped to proceed with other things but its backfired on them with these tub damaging collisions.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Vowles says that its an 'overload' with their system adding to the complexity of the car.

James Vowles will get it right but it would help if the drivers stopped tearing corners off the car.

[M5Rick]

What's it got do with Ralf Schumacher what RBR decides on their drivers now, in the summer or never LOL he's getting his kickers in a twist about nothing. RB's 1-2 finishes are making him have a nervous twitch for some reason.
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...placement-now/

[HeelToeShift]

Really good race here and nice to see order has been restored as we all know Sai would have had no chance at winning Aus if not for Max's DNF. And not to mention the ensuing praise of a guy who only just won his 3rd career race - the recency bias is so strong there.
Now go into this weekend and RB is said to be 1 sec off Ferrari's long run pace but when Ferrari uses 40-50 kg less fuel and runs a higher engine mode, you realize it's only a falsity that was realized in the race. Max controlled the race from the start and didnt seem to need to push much.

[Car-Addicted]

Wonder if Fred Vasseur went shopping for a Seppuku/Harakiri suicide knife while he was in Japan?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Wonder if Fred Vasseur went shopping for a Seppuku/Harakiri suicide knife while he was in Japan?

Sainz will buy him one . That's a great honor in Japan ...

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Wonder if Fred Vasseur went shopping for a Seppuku/Harakiri suicide knife while he was in Japan?

Why? I thought they had a pretty good day

3rd and 4th was more than I was expecting.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Why? I thought they had a pretty good day

3rd and 4th was more than I was expecting.

Not a bad day, but I think it did show that the RB, which they still have yet to totally figure out and optimize like they did the RB19, is still much faster than both Ferraris, and the speed is not only in race but now seems to have moved into quali too. On top of that Per seems to be able to get more out of the RB20 than he did the RB19 to the tune of 8 & 14 seconds on both Ferraris while Max was 21 second ahead of Sai and 27 second ahead of Lec. And Max seemed to be really taking it easy, and by the radio messages the balance was still a bit off. Knowing that this car will be better once they hone in the set-up, it's going to be very tough to beat.
It will be interesting to see what the other 3 teams behind do as they look much close to Ferrari than Ferrari does to RB.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by G MONEY

Yawn X 1,000,000. Best part of the race was lap 1. I was flipping back and forth between the race and the Weather channel

So then what was worse in your opinion: Lulu finishing 9th or Lulu finishing 2 places behind George?

[G30M]

you saw this at Suzuka 2024

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by g21

you saw this at Suzuka 2024

The amount of emails and phone calls for driver applications at RB must be running into the dozens but wait..Checo is performing and while MAX is there I say why upset the apple cart..
Checo has said he expects to know what will happen in a month or two and if there's no announcement then it looks like Checo is in for '25, lets keep in mind that SAI could just be looking for a year only in any team and RB may not want that, SAI may have already fixed a deal secretly at Audi for '26.
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...red-bull-seat/

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX is confused and must be having a laugh at some of the flippant language suddenly being used in F1 and dad Jos also, things like 'kick it' or 'send it'.
Jan Lammers here talks about an informal spiel that's worming its way into F1.
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...ls-top-pundit/

[M5Rick]

Lando N is dejected that the MCL 38 is not up to it by a long way and Ferrari equaling with what would have been a RB 19 this year there's more bad news for them as Newey spells out upgrades to bury them
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...-car-overhaul/

[Davil]

Originally Posted by Davil

I don’t think so. We will see.

Max agrees with me. Therefore you are wrong.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Lando N is dejected that the MCL 38 is not up to it by a long way and Ferrari equaling with what would have been a RB 19 this year there's more bad news for them as Newey spells out upgrades to bury them
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...-car-overhaul/

Not a whole lot there, but what I see from a design standpoint is that the car appears getting more clean aero - trying to use natural air points while closing off of others to gain efficiency. As I said above, it seems they're still trying to find the optimal set-up for the car, so it can only get better from that aspect too.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

So then what was worse in your opinion: Lulu finishing 9th or Lulu finishing 2 places behind George?

This to me is the biggest problem. All the talk after races is about who finished 7-11. Take this race. From 3rd place on its over 20 seconds and climbs. 9th was like 50
Seconds🤣 and 10th is a lap down. Wake me up when the top three finish within 5 seconds. Or it’s a drag race for the win or a pass on the last lap. For fucks sake. Do it on purpose for 1 race. After race 12 all the titles will be wrapped up so they can plan to have someone pass Max on the last lap, do something!! The drama at Red Bull is way more interesting than the races That Ain’t
Good. This is coming from a long time fan. I do love the sport, For everything about it. But you need a competitive race once in a blue. It pathetic right now. SAD