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      07-23-2016, 03:47 PM   #23
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Well at least there will still be V8s to be had... For now
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There is a 4000cc n63 for China and some other markets where there are massive tax differences for engines below 4000cc. Realoem mentions it when you go to the F10 or F06 for example. It does state bore or stroke though on there, even if you look up the piston itself. Perhaps if someone on here can read Chinese they might be able to pull that info from BMW China
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Interesting, but the move from supercharging to turbocharging is not so hot. Everyone knows supercharging is superior when it comes to throttle response, power and exhaust note (very subjective).
We're not in the 80's anymore bud.
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      07-23-2016, 03:56 PM   #26
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Great now Jaguar can have even more issues with N63 engine
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Be nice if Jag gave BMW something like the platform in return...

While we're at it do McLaren fancy giving BM their carbon tub and PCC suspension systems in exchange for the wonderful V12 they had that propelled the F1 into the stratosphere.
BMWs Carbon technology is far more advanced than McLaren's. And I mean light years ahead.
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      07-23-2016, 05:11 PM   #28
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Needs BMW suspension tuning or it'll ride like a boat? Lol
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      07-23-2016, 05:16 PM   #29
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      07-23-2016, 07:29 PM   #30
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RIP amazing sounding V8's..

Sincerely, everyone who used to love BMW M noises.
It's all in the exhaust tuning
Not true, you can tune the sound of the engine with exhaust, not change it. BMW's exhaust manifold arrangement is what is responsible for the current N63/S63 soundtrack, you can only tune the sound from there, not change it to sound like any other V8
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      07-23-2016, 07:58 PM   #31
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      07-23-2016, 08:41 PM   #32
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It's all in the ASD
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I think this will be a good thing. BMW has supplied engines for Jag/LR in the past (early 2000's) before Tata bought Jag/LR. Hell the early Fourth gen Range Rover's, the L322 body trucks were essentially E53 X5's with Range Rover body kits.... BMW supplied M62 V8's and M57 Diesel 6's to Land Rover for those vehicles.

Jaguar and Land Rover engines have reliability issues, compounded by supply chain issues. Many of these engines Jag/LR will only sell you a complete short block.

Need a rod or main bearing set? Tough! Buy a complete block and rotating assembly, or a complete long engine. Don't like it? Jag/LR doesn't care!

Now at least maintenance and repair parts will be readily available.
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      07-23-2016, 09:09 PM   #34
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It's all in the ASD
Fixed for you
Actually no, but I get it..you own a pre ASD car so you're tossing shade at it
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      07-23-2016, 10:19 PM   #35
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Interesting, but the move from supercharging to turbocharging is not so hot. Everyone knows supercharging is superior when it comes to throttle response, power and exhaust note.
It used to be correct, but not nowadays.
Turbo's have really outpaced the outdated Supercharger.
Just look at the award winning engines...
He's either trolling or misinformed.

Let him pick which he prefers.
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Actually no, but I get it..you own a pre ASD car so you're tossing shade at it
I wish I was wrong

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      07-23-2016, 10:37 PM   #37
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Interesting, but the move from supercharging to turbocharging is not so hot. Everyone knows supercharging is superior when it comes to throttle response, power and exhaust note.
It's different but definetly not superior. Depends on what you want though. Superchargers have parasitic loss that a turbo does not. Happy trolling bro!
Not trolling bro. I am not saying that superchargers are superior in everything, they aren't. But as far as the criteria I mentioned, throttle response and exhaust sound, that is true.

Every turbo engine no matter how good suffers from some degree of turbo lag. Superchargers have no lag. The turbo robs the exhaust of sound energy. Supercharged cars sound as good as NA cars.
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      07-23-2016, 11:15 PM   #38
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      07-23-2016, 11:28 PM   #39
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Interesting, but the move from supercharging to turbocharging is not so hot. Everyone knows supercharging is superior when it comes to throttle response, power and exhaust note.
It used to be correct, but not nowadays.
Turbo's have really outpaced the outdated Supercharger.
Just look at the award winning engines...
You mean like the Audi V6 supercharged engine which won Ward's top 10 for like 3 years in a row? I know it is getting replaced by a turbo for 2016, but Audi concedes the move is driven by fuel economy which turbos offer in spades compared to superchargers.

In any case, don't write off the supercharger just yet. The electric supercharger will likely make a big splash and be paired with a classic turbo

http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...oreUserAgent=1
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Interesting, but the move from supercharging to turbocharging is not so hot. Everyone knows supercharging is superior when it comes to throttle response, power and exhaust note.
It used to be correct, but not nowadays.
Turbo's have really outpaced the outdated Supercharger.
Just look at the award winning engines...
He's either trolling or misinformed.

Let him pick which he prefers.
Thank you for your $0.02 and clarifying the situation.
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A long term reverse engineering scheme to take on their main competitors IMO
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      07-24-2016, 12:07 AM   #42
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      07-24-2016, 12:21 AM   #43
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I thought new M5 would be having V10.
Ah, yes, of course! Now I remember! NA V10 incoming next gen on the M5 and M6 as well as a supercar M8.

We can all wish it, but I'm afraid we are longing for a routed horse.
M8, WTF????
F90 M5 should be coming out next year.
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