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Originally Posted by jmg
My mistake. I did not read all the way to the section where it said it was a 2013 S. I'm guessing the 2013 S had a 60kwh battery?
That's a $443/kwh cost to replace today vs $707/kwh in 2013. That's about 37% less. $26k vs $44k adjusted for inflation.
The 90% I quoted was for the cost of manufacturing a new battery based on several articles I read. Like I mentioned in my previous post, that does not mean that's how much it would cost to replace an old battery, which includes ancillary charges for labor and parts etc. Additionally, this is a legacy part. Perhaps the newer batteries are, in fact, cheaper, but this one isn't because it's an older battery?
Regardless, you said they were going up. 37% less is a decrease in price.
I did a search on MODERN Teslas and found this article which included labor:
https://www.recurrentauto.com/resear...lacement-costs
The Tesla 3 cost $16k and the article says $180/kwh including labor. That's 75% less than the $707/kwh. Still also not an increase in price. |
In 2012 a Chevy volt cost ~$40,000. In 2022 a replacement EV battery for that same Chevy volt is $30,000. Do you think they put a $30,000 battery in a $10,000 car, or does the battery cost more now than it did before?
I dug up an old article from 2012 on this very subject, they concluded the Chevy Volt battery was $12,000 in 2012. in 2022 it's $30,000, or 250% more.
A 2010 National Academy of Sciences report estimated pack costs then at $625 to $850 per kilowatt-hour.
So where does that take us? If we assume that the 2011 Chevrolet Volt's 16-kWh pack cost roughly $750 per kilowatt-hour (or about $12,000), then we can project the two rates of decline.
At 6 percent a year, the same pack in 2020 would cost just $430/kWh, or $6,500 in total. At 8 percent, it would be even cheaper, at $354/kWh or $5,200 altogether.
https://www.greencarreports.com/news...ery-costs-fall
Please note, they were predicting this battery would be less than $5000 in 2022 using their 8% figure, which clearly it is not. In 2012 they shared your optimism, and they were wrong.
There are other examples, I even referenced one where a customer was quoted more for a Polestar 2 battery than the MSRP of the entire Polestar 2 when new.