[Stormbitch]

Massively noted a difference to the sound in the new 2019/20/21 7 Series G11/12
i.e. the facelift one with the grill.

My 2016 G11 sounds WAY better - its as if they have changed

The drivers / size
The power
Something else.

The lower end is less full, colder, sharper.

The bass speakers which I think are under the seat, not really subs, but ... are much much weaker in both the new 7 today over the older one.

Go back to a F Series 7 - its different again - not bad but different.

For instance.

Old 7 pre G11 - 7/10
G11 8/10 - 9/10 if you don't like hip hop or too much sub.
New 7 6.5/10 max

Benchmark - Audi Bang and Olefson - 5/10 - what a con. Horrible sound.

Anyone have ANY IDEAS WHAT THEY ARE DOING? There will be a techie on here who knows more than me.

The Harmon in the 2017-2018 5 Series is shockingly bad. Not heard the new one.

And its pretty weak in the 8 Series too.

Major off putting for buying my next car - if the sounds are bad I may aswell have an Audi - they are built better.

Mercedes systems E / C and S are now in the lead the warmth and detail with theirs is amazing - but I cant get on with their aftersales.