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      01-17-2020, 11:34 AM   #413
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I really did own an M3, for 10 years, and even tracked it.

The M340 would walk the e92, since it's MUCH faster in a straight line and more than equal with its cornering grip. I'm well aware of the M mantra of overall capability, but that's what the M340 has.

Lets look at the M550 vs M5:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2018...-m550i-xdrive/

"25 percent price increase for maybe 17 percent more performance"

I get that the M5 is a better car, with more road "feel", but the M550 has the Performance of the previous F10 generation. The article says the 550 feels great. I'm just wondering why the 550 isn't an M car since it has M performance.

I say this often for people who use "because track" as a reason, but Modern M cars are heavy and big. Even that E92, while excellent at the limit and forgiving, was heavy to push around all day. You can feel the weight in the corners. Why are you tracking a car with full back seats and leather etc on a consistent basis?

So, if you have the finances for just one car that you need to use every day and track often, get the M3. I'll be a half second behind you having just as much fun.
Again, you're comparing a car that's 12 YEARS older and 2 GENERATIONS older. Compare the 335i to the e9x m3 and tell me they're anywhere close to the same.

To your point about 17% better performance for 25% price premium... It's called the law of diminishing returns. 17% performance increase is a substantial increase. Let's apply this example to school. A student that always gets 100% likely has to work at least 25% harder than the 83% student to get the 17% grade increase. For most people, being a low B student is acceptable and they settle for that score. Again, no issues with it. But that 83% student better not go around claiming to be a 100% A+ student because they aren't. Its a significant difference.

To your final point, I highly disagree if you actually think a M550 will be just a half second behind a M5 on a track. In a straight line, maybe its close to M-like performance, but it'll never have M like involvement or M fun factor. Try breaking that rear end loose like an M5 with precision control and not find yourself getting thrashed around like a ragdoll pointing the other direction.
Man that's a lot of numbers.

Look. The M5 is the best 5 Series you can buy. It's the fastest, most involved one.

All I'm saying is you might not NEED all that performance. If you don't, an M550 is a nice choice, and still a car you can enjoy every day with performance better than most previous M cars. That doesn't mean it's NOT an M car.
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