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      01-17-2020, 04:20 AM   #337
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I'm gonna stop you there because I've had both and there are 2 things to consider.

A new M340 is faster and more capable than my old E92 M3. Does that mean my M3 is no longer a real M car because it doesn't have true M Performance by modern standards? I'm sure you'll answer no.

So then what makes the M340 NOT an M car? It has real M Performance.

The new M3 will of course be even more solid and stable and fast, but you don't need it everyday. You might use 50% of the car's performance on your commute, and that's only for a few seconds at a time. At normal speeds, it feels like...a BMW. And if you're gonna use it like a normal BMW most of the time, why not get a normal BMW?
SoManyBlueCars I think you missed my entire point as you immediately mentioned speed.....An M car is so much more than straight line speed. If you really did own an M3, you should know that.

First of all, please tell me you realize you just compared a car that came out 12 YEARS AGO versus a brand new, less than 1 year old car (2 gens newer!) that barely performs on a similar playing field to its much older sibling? I'd bet the e92 m3 would still slightly edge the m340 around a track.

To your final point, why bother getting a m340 or heck, even a 330 when a 320 will feel like a BMW at normal commuting speeds? If you have the means to afford a true, proper M car, then why not if it makes you happy?

Wait until the new m3 is released. It's going to walk circles around the M340i in every way possible...
I really did own an M3, for 10 years, and even tracked it.

The M340 would walk the e92, since it's MUCH faster in a straight line and more than equal with its cornering grip. I'm well aware of the M mantra of overall capability, but that's what the M340 has.

Lets look at the M550 vs M5:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2018...-m550i-xdrive/

"25 percent price increase for maybe 17 percent more performance"

I get that the M5 is a better car, with more road "feel", but the M550 has the Performance of the previous F10 generation. The article says the 550 feels great. I'm just wondering why the 550 isn't an M car since it has M performance.

I say this often for people who use "because track" as a reason, but Modern M cars are heavy and big. Even that E92, while excellent at the limit and forgiving, was heavy to push around all day. You can feel the weight in the corners. Why are you tracking a car with full back seats and leather etc on a consistent basis?

So, if you have the finances for just one car that you need to use every day and track often, get the M3. I'll be a half second behind you having just as much fun.
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