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Oh wow. You are engaged in what the leftist do on this side of the pond: Denigrate the article because of the source rather than considering the information delivered. Intellectual dishonesty at its highest level.
Bravo.
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I rather believe that Lauda was trolling Montezemolo in the same way that Mercedes has been trolling RBR about the chassis.
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Steps to getting press coverage in 2020: 1. Call some wag in the press. 2. Say Lewis is great but, "... 3. Add whatever negative BS you have to add which will denigrate HAM. 4. Boom...global coverage. Bernie is a toxin. Always has been, always will be. Though he did commercialize and professionalize F1, it could have been so much better without his autocratic behavior and blatant favoritism towards Ferrari. Bernie wants to be in F1 but they pushed him out at the first chance. Good riddance.
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It's not low . These are facts !
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If you lived over here you'd understand, on your side of the pond I would call it spare mens-room paper. Lets be careful tho as politics not allowed.
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"Isn't that asking for trouble" ? As far as I can read , some HAM-fans are pretty crazy , and some posts have reached a level of ignorant arrogance and disillusioned nature, it's amazing these guys are actually allowed in society ! Why should we take all this 5H1T ? Perhaps you guys are thinking we are retarded idiots.. What you guys are feeling for HAM . That's what we are feeling for MAX ! And that will NEVER change ! We have to deal with the fasted car of the decade , MAX is the underdog and the only driver who is able to split the Mercs ! What's wrong with that ? You guys win everything in the fastest car of the decade ! Isn't that enough ? Our posts from us MAX-fans are a defence mechanism !
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^ There's also the rest of the field who have to suffer in silence my friend, what they must be going through and I don't see many fans for them on here or do they just change the spots and go with the fastest car whatever it is.
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Were you expecting to get no push back from your baseless fabricated lies about Mercedes? The irony being that Red Bull is the one that has been disqualified in the past for cheating not Mercedes...that Red Bull run a high rake design specifically to (at best) game the aero regs not Mercedes. Afford some respect for Mercedes and their drivers and maybe it would be reciprocated. |
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I, strangely, have been a Norris fan since he started, and a Ricciardo fan before that. None of these threads ever reference them much so I have little to say. Us fans of other guys just usually stay out of the fight. That said, I’m quite looking forward to having them on one team. Talk about dream come true for me!
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But, I’m just a hockey fan so what do I know. On that front, all of the drivers whine too much for my likening except maybe MAG. He bumped me, he ran me off the road, I’ve got no power, grip etc etc. It does get a bit old sometimes. At least it is nearly as bad as soccer. Last edited by minn19; 11-27-2020 at 10:55 AM.. |
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Oh my, the stock market bullboards I frequent have nothing on this thread. Keep it up fellas, great entertainment.
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There is ZERO evidence that Max is faster than Lewis. You can base it on historical data, current data, and even with an interpolation over car performance. Hamilton has won EVERY wet race bar one since 2013 and you guys STILL say VER is the rain-meister. This is literally insane. He has ONE wet race win since he has been in F1 and 2 good wet performances including that win. Now on to raw speed which can be most demonstrated in one-lap performance either in the race on on Saturdays in Q3. As I stated in another post, Max has had over 20 opportunities at tracks that give the Red Bull a performance advantage in quali and over a race distance. These are facts. Yet his performance has been 2 pole positions and 9 fastest laps. This is very damning. He threw away a race win in Turkey because he was devastated after thinking he would win pole-position and was destabilized for the rest of the weekend. He had, by far, the fastest car on race day and did nothing with it. Nothing. I believe that Max is in the top 4 drivers on the circuit with HAM at the top. I even praised his first Championship level drive earlier this year. He was, in that win, everything a team could ask for. I will now put on my senior management hat and share with you my diagnosis of the problem just as I would assess one of my clients. The problem, as I see it, surfaces as an inability to worry about his own game. Both he and his team worry too much about Mercedes and HAM. The first thing I would do if I were Max is insist they go to a lower rake and longer design. There is now ample evidence that it works best provided the car can be induced to rotate properly. This will also give Adrian Newey, the Aero-whisperer, more surface area in which he can work his magic. Additionally, I would get more input from the 2nd driver about the cars performance. They have gone down a self-limiting development pathway and exacerbated it by using Max only as the reference. Sometimes you go faster by moving more slowly in certain types of track situations. Most importantly, I'd scrap the company culture starting with Darth Marko and tell everyone else, including Max to STFU about other drivers and look inwards on doing those things necessary to improve himself, the leadership he evidences in the team (if any), and remove all other toxins from his influence at the track. (Jos) This would be a good start. I look forward to you and the other RBR supporters holding the team accountable for their lack of success as we do here in the states for the teams we support. Max is a great driver and may be a generational talent, time will tell...but currently he is no Lewis Hamilton based on actual evidence and performance. Lewis wins races he is supposed to win AND races he isn't supposed to win. Max doesn't do the former yet and definitely not the latter. Cheers, my good friend and I look forward to more FACTUAL debate. mk
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Yes you know they are. In F1 you have to PROVE your car is legal, not have the FIA prove it is illegal. The Merc has been proven legal time and time again.
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So i've sometimes wondered why Red Bull have persevered with their high rake philosophy...there must be benefits for Newey to stick with it. Then while recently reading up on Red Bulls flexible front wing controversy, one of the regulations that was "broken" by their wing design was the minimum front wing ground clearance. So it occurred to me how else could Red Bull get round that particular regulation and keep the aero benefits of reduced drag at high speeds that their flexi wings gave. So....with a high rake car design, assuming you run a stiff front suspension for best grip and turn in and a softer rear suspension for best traction...then at high speed if the rear of the car is slightly pushed down while the front of the car remains stable you will have in effect reduced the angle that both the front and rear wing present to the airflow. Even a small effective reduction in wing angles would still produce a reduction in aero drag and thus a benefit to top speed. |
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The article is dated Dec 2010 which gave all F1 teams two yrs (2012-2013) to develop the 2014 spec PU. It's as if those that claim otherwise are unlearned....ok, perhaps uninformed.
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The observation regarding the RBR's higher rake makes complete sense. And your comment re Newey's lack of results to deliver his expected aero-magic is spot-on.
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