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Again, you do not read, the Hamilton incident is independent of the argument I have been making. You really, really, need to learn to read. That is why you are a moron. Quote:
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If you still don't get that you are reading a different argument than is being presented, you are a moron.
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Disagree on where the driver can "impede others as they wish". That's why there are Sporting Regulations for driver's behaviors on the track. You are contradicting yourself by saying drivers can impede each other as they wish, and on the other hand saying Hamilton's move was sketchy. Hamilton made a move that caused Di Resta to go off track, that simply put him impeding other drivers. in essence, it is NOT OK for drivers to impede others "as they wish".
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...you calm yet? I was not trying to compare a normal garden variety track day to an F1 race. You made that comparison. I was asking the guy if he has any track experience, if he had, he would have understood the situation a little better. So what you are saying is that Hamilton had every right on this planet to make that maneuver, and that the penalty was completely unwarranted?
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No I didn't say that about hamilton, at all. I only said I THOUGHT he gave a car width on the racing line, from that video, he definitely did not, but that has nothing to do with the argument above. As another example, if hamilton spun the other way while people were wizzing by, would anyone care? No, because you don't just sit there and wait unless you have no choice but to hit someone.
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Then why was there a penalty given to Hamilton? Please explain.
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He ran di Resta off the track?
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It's literally not possible to be any clearer, I will have to simply assume you are a moron who cannot read as well. It's literally right there in black and white for you.
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n. "A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years" Even my 9yr old nephew knows that if you spin or go off in traffic, in racing, you DO wait. Even more so when it's at an F1 level. No one ever was talking about spinning out in the middle of no where. $0.02 |
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Yo've never shown your face in these threads about F1, then you come in and just start calling everyone a moron. You need an attitude check! If all you are going to do is call people names, we don't want you here. Please go away. I am happy to have a debate about F1 in a calm way. Come back when you can discuss things like an adult.
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I got in this fight with the guy behind the desk at my computer store. He was talking about hammy and the spin and I just jumped in. Made getting some ram chips and a video card that much more entertaining
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Renault explained the cause of Heidfeld's explosion in Hungary.
Hotter than normal engine mapping (exhaust blowing hotter than previous races), plus a long pitstop contributed to the crack exhaust. Then overheating the air bottle for engine valves allows it to explode. Its not the KERS battery pack afterall. Quote:
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I still find it discouraging though that poeple can't tell the difference between just making a bad move, vs making a move that is bad but better than any other option you have. Everything is relative. A large part of this depends on your perspective. Are you looking at from the perspective of Hamilton in the cockpit, or a spectator who might not really want him to succeed. At this point, no one is refuting that the manuever was unsafe. It was a forced spin within close proximity of other cars moving at speed. So, it's safe to say this will always be considered dangerous. However, these drivers aren't just at a track day. They are racing, and racing to win. (I'll draw reference again that he was leading the race at the point when he spun.) The penalty that he got wasn't because it was dangerous, as anyone could argue that racing itself is inherently dangerous. To be clear, He got the penalty for breaking the rules prescribed by E90 a page or so back and impeding another driver by forcing them off the track. And I would disagree that my understanding of the situation was incomplete. I feel my understanding is balanced. I understand the need to uphold safety, this is common sense. I don't need to have done a track day to know what a close call looks like while driving, I see it every day with all the pickup trucks here. However, you must recognise that they aren't just at a track day. They are racing. This alone should be enough of an explanation, and if you don't believe me then go watch 'Senna' again please.
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^ Well said.
Haven't posted in this thread, my BBC player crapped out again and had to watch later on sunday What an amazing race though. For me, revelaed a lot about JB's driving style and composure. And though it's only my 2nd season watching, I feel like SV can stretch his legs. 4-5 solid races from him and he can wrap up the season. Last edited by yakev724; 08-04-2011 at 12:58 PM.. |
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Ok, point taken he has been here in the past. But that doesn't give him the right to just start calling people morons.
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I don't agree w/ people calling each other names, specially in this thread since its always the same group of guys and I like pretty much everyone who posts here
BUT some of you guys are doing some selective reading when it comes to O-Cha's posts, he really could not be more clear by what he's trying to say, which has nothing to do w/ LH spin out but rather a comment by xbook earlier in the thread |
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