Freshly Spied G11 BMW 7-Series. BMW CEO Confirms Carbon Fiber Use

qbix · 11-29-2013, 03:51 AM

Weight saving of 30kg if that much.
770i !! That's big. I believe it's gonna be 3.0l with 5 turbos.
On top of that 7 series M... it looks like soon it's gonna be hard to find non M car from BMW.
I am happy to switch to Porsche in the upcoming year however will also order F15 as I think it's a beautiful car.

Hans_ACS · 11-29-2013, 05:48 AM

Looks a lot like the F01 from the side. I am afraid the dash (with the separate screen) will be introduced as well in the new 7, making me really doubt if I'd buy a new one. I really like my nice and flat leather dash ...

bavarian19 · 11-29-2013, 05:58 AM

I have only seen 2 of the new 7's on the road. Do people even buy 7's anymore?

3s-a-charm · 11-29-2013, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pkim1079

770?!

More like 747

misterbeemer · 11-29-2013, 08:33 AM

Okay, I don't get this! People here defended BMW's ugly hood line cut design by saying it was because of pedestrian safety regulations. So how come this doesn't have the ugly hood line? Don't get me wrong, I like how it used to be and am glad to see the old hood line back.

That aside, this looks a lot like the current 7 series, especially from the side. Expect this one to have larger grilles, larger headlights that merge in to the grille, weigh a couple hundred or so pounds less and have more tech in an attempt to match that of the S class. Nothing we don't already know or expect. I feel the designers have lost their creativity.

Hans_ACS · 11-29-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bavarian19

I have only seen 2 of the new 7's on the road. Do people even buy 7's anymore?

Over here in Europe (or Belgium in my case), they are very rare. I have seen 2 facelift models in a period of more than a year. My dealer (a big dealer around the capital of Brussels) sold 6 F01 cars this year. That's it. Taxes have become increasingly high, that owning one has become a true wallet breaker.

Resale value has subsequently dropped to all-time low levels.

Luminor513 · 11-29-2013, 10:04 AM

Looking forward to the next gen BMW's that hopefully will all undergo a weight loss program.

Judah · 11-29-2013, 12:13 PM

I read somewhere, BMW says the new 7 will weigh less than the current 5.

pkimM3r · 11-29-2013, 01:22 PM

In la they are EVERYWHERE.

335ifanatic · 11-29-2013, 05:06 PM

Up here in Vancouver you see 7's out and about but still rare. The LCI is rare, doubt anyone wants to drop $120K and the car is basically worth half in 2 years so a lot of used or lease returned 7's get snapped up instantly from local dealers.

vladberca · 11-30-2013, 02:07 PM

The new S Class has almost the same weight with the previous generation so it will be somehow in the last position related to driving dynamics in the luxury class.. Jag and Audi already use Al chassis, BMW will have CFRP and Porsche is on top with Panamera..
Still a long wait 'till the G11 release

flinchy · 11-30-2013, 08:10 PM

They JUST released F...

It took 40 years or so to use E... 5 to use F???

FLOMACKS · 12-23-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pkim1079

In la they are EVERYWHERE.

True. I moved from LA to Atlanta a couple years ago, hardly see them anymore. In LA they're pretty much standard issue.

When your driving back from Mammoth or Vegas, you know you're getting close when you start seeing the 7's.

Jai 302 · 01-27-2014, 09:15 AM

One thing's for sure, if BMW persists with using the "shadowline" trim on the majority of 7 series variants like they have with the 4 series, then this car is going to end up looking cheaper than any of its competitors. Before anyone says chrome trim is cheap looking, please google pictures of the new S-class which literally everyone drools over. A new 4 series with chrome looks at least twice as good (and expensive) as one with shadowline.

I'd like to see this "shadowline" trim left alone as something exclusive for M cars. It doesn't suit run of the mill BMW's.

pkimM3r · 01-27-2014, 09:33 AM

As much as i love bmws, i would take an S class over a 7 any and every day.

Fanta · 01-27-2014, 09:42 AM

After I took all 3 BMW driving school and try with Mercedes tech. driving school.
BMW make a very good car. Especially 50:50, BMW driving school teach us what is
50:50.
After drove 7 series for a month, I became to understand what is the difference 5 to 7.
BMW really make a much better than other maker.
Before I buy my new 7 series, I can buy a S-class but I skip it.
BMW is not a cosmetic car. It is a driver's car, even a 7 series.

aajami · 01-27-2014, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ///MTUNED

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Originally Posted by M4Rican

This car will not be the first. The M4 uses CFRP extensively and will be out before this car. Am I missing something?

The body will have CRFP, ///M4 only has suspension parts made from CRFP.

The F8x doesn't use any CFRP in the suspension. Just the roof, drive shaft, engine bay brace, and trunk (M4 only).

ShahiniBmw · 01-27-2014, 11:16 AM

Hopefully it came match up with the Benz S-Class. I always liked the 7 series . Let's see what they going to do with it.

hyperboost · 01-27-2014, 11:26 AM

I predict 300lba weight reduction with this car.

SoCali E36 · 01-27-2014, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by clar

Extensive weight loss? All that talk would probably end up with a measly 200 lbs weight reduction. I'll believe it when it's official.

Exactly what I was thinking.

clbmw · 01-27-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 3s-a-charm

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Originally Posted by pkim1079

770?!

More like 747

If only it were a 7 l N/A engine... My bet is a 3l turbo

EmArAsOnS · 01-27-2014, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rayg

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Originally Posted by Schm

looks like Dubai, not exactly known for following traffic rules there. Look up tafheet.

I'd blame it on women drivers but I'm not sure they even let women drive there.

It is not Saudi Arabia...it is Dubai where 80% of the ppl living there are British.

770i what the heck would be that?
7,7 L 700 Bhp plz

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11-29-2013, 05:48 AM	#24
Hans_ACS Private 9 Rep 56 Posts Drives: BMW F01 740d Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	Looks a lot like the F01 from the side. I am afraid the dash (with the separate screen) will be introduced as well in the new 7, making me really doubt if I'd buy a new one. I really like my nice and flat leather dash ...
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11-29-2013, 05:58 AM	#25
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misterbeemer First Lieutenant 40 Rep 309 Posts Drives: E92, E46 M3, E39 M5, 750Li Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Okay, I don't get this! People here defended BMW's ugly hood line cut design by saying it was because of pedestrian safety regulations. So how come this doesn't have the ugly hood line? Don't get me wrong, I like how it used to be and am glad to see the old hood line back. That aside, this looks a lot like the current 7 series, especially from the side. Expect this one to have larger grilles, larger headlights that merge in to the grille, weigh a couple hundred or so pounds less and have more tech in an attempt to match that of the S class. Nothing we don't already know or expect. I feel the designers have lost their creativity.
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335ifanatic Major 52 Rep 1,091 Posts Drives: Revuelto, Urus Performante, X5 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	Up here in Vancouver you see 7's out and about but still rare. The LCI is rare, doubt anyone wants to drop $120K and the car is basically worth half in 2 years so a lot of used or lease returned 7's get snapped up instantly from local dealers.
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vladberca Major General 777 Rep 5,566 Posts Drives: '18 octavia 2.0 tdi dsg Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Craiova iTrader: (0)	The new S Class has almost the same weight with the previous generation so it will be somehow in the last position related to driving dynamics in the luxury class.. Jag and Audi already use Al chassis, BMW will have CFRP and Porsche is on top with Panamera.. Still a long wait 'till the G11 release
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Jai 302 Banned 42 Rep 101 Posts Drives: F13 640i Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dubai iTrader: (0)	One thing's for sure, if BMW persists with using the "shadowline" trim on the majority of 7 series variants like they have with the 4 series, then this car is going to end up looking cheaper than any of its competitors. Before anyone says chrome trim is cheap looking, please google pictures of the new S-class which literally everyone drools over. A new 4 series with chrome looks at least twice as good (and expensive) as one with shadowline. I'd like to see this "shadowline" trim left alone as something exclusive for M cars. It doesn't suit run of the mill BMW's.
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pkimM3r Banned 220 Rep 7,298 Posts Drives: m3 saloon in granny mode. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lost angeles iTrader: (0)	As much as i love bmws, i would take an S class over a 7 any and every day.
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01-27-2014, 11:26 AM	#41
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