Still want an EV? (NO POLITICS)

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

And the Isle of Man TT has a separate category for EV bikes which are still not running the same times as the Superbikes. The EV category was dropped in 2022 due to lack of entrants.

Probably a weight issue, or overheated battery/electronics?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

Fabulous conversation today
Walking the dogs and a dog I knew usually walked by a 50 years ish aged couple came along being walked by an old man...so I ask..
"oh im so and so's dad...we had to come from a town 3 hours away to walk the dogs..our kids have flown to Zagreb.. its so hot in Europe.. global warming..climate change..why do people drive these polluting cars...they don't care about the world"
I just smiled and nodded on..and moved on..
you sir and you kids are the problem..not I or ice driving guys etc..

That's the hilarious part. Climate Fearers think there is a problem, but it is everyone else's fault. I wonder if he realized his kid's dog unnecessary pollutes the planet and affects the climate.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

That's the hilarious part. Climate Fearers think there is a problem, but it is everyone else's fault. I wonder if he realized his kid's dog unnecessary pollutes the planet and affects the climate.

This
Control is about making people change while being wilfully/unknowingly ignorant of other people's needs and desires..and indeed profiting from forcing this. I can see the pleasure some of these gang may gain by watching the guy who used to comfortably drive to work being forced to walk/cycle etc in the rain or snow as car ownership becomes less affordable/less practical with ev and gloating in their satisfaction of having contributed to saving the world.
If the educated wise looking old guy in his 80s I met had no insight what hope does the average Joe or the kids of today have.


PS. On reflection.. Not an isolated incident
3 years ago around the time i got my X5 Couple across the street in their 70's.
Chat was about their lovely tan from their 21 day cruise etc then it went into Australian wildfires then into climate change and then how diesel and petrol cars were polluting the world etc...
I kind if felt they were guilt tripping me about my new car but again I just grin and bear it.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

This
Control is about making people change while being wilfully/unknowingly ignorant of other people's needs and desires..and indeed profiting from forcing this. I can see the pleasure some of these gang may gain by watching the guy who used to comfortably drive to work being forced to walk/cycle etc in the rain or snow as car ownership becomes less affordable/less practical with ev and gloating in their satisfaction of having contributed to saving the world.
If the educated wise looking old guy in his 80s I met had no insight what hope does the average Joe or the kids of today have.


PS. On reflection.. Not an isolated incident
3 years ago around the time i got my X5 Couple across the street in their 70's.
Chat was about their lovely tan from their 21 day cruise etc then it went into Australian wildfires then into climate change and then how diesel and petrol cars were polluting the world etc...
I kind if felt they were guilt tripping me about my new car but again I just grin and bear it.

On BBC Surrey yesterday the snowflakes there were panicking about the Europe wide heatwave and of course 'fossil fuels' and vehicles were being banded about by the Greta supporters

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

On BBC Surrey yesterday the snowflakes there were panicking about the Europe wide heatwave and of course 'fossil fuels' and vehicles were being banded about by the Greta supporters

Sometimes I wonder if those fools were on the breadline and had to do 12 hour shifts 6 days a week to make ends meet their priorities might be different.

[Car-Addicted]

Climate change is the new religion of the left.

Fun Fact: During the Ordovician period CO2 was about 8 times preindustrial, about 2,400ppm. The Ordovician featured a Biodiversification period, an ice age and a mass extinction event.

[PhaceN52]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

PS. On reflection.. Not an isolated incident
3 years ago around the time i got my X5 Couple across the street in their 70's.
Chat was about their lovely tan from their 21 day cruise etc then it went into Australian wildfires then into climate change and then how diesel and petrol cars were polluting the world etc...
I kind if felt they were guilt tripping me about my new car but again I just grin and bear it.

What? Lithium mines? I don't know her
/sarcasm



just to add some spice
(I love animals btw)

[Car-Addicted]

Somehow I doubt the new mantra of the Climate Zombies will be "Save the planet, eat a dog"

[PhaceN52]

Neither "Stop cargo ships from burning bunker oil", you know, free shipping from aliexpress is too tempting

Sarcasm aside, ships burning that molasses are terrible if compared to cars, but global economy (EDIT so our lifestyle, industry etc, the impact of an increase in moving basically everything across oceans would be huge) relies too much on low shipping rates, so as usual who will be doomed? The normal citizen
"Yeah add this new GPF/DPF that only turns the particles too thin to be seen from our pollution control equipment, more labor, more maintenance, more diseases, eco friendly tag... you're ready to go"

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

fcman is subbing in well for BGM

Fcman is a tiny bit more classy.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Climate change is the new religion of the left.

Fun Fact: During the Ordovician period CO2 was about 8 times preindustrial, about 2,400ppm. The Ordovician featured a Biodiversification period, an ice age and a mass extinction event.

Come on, STOP with the geology and paleontology facts, it doesn't support the narrative!!!!!

In one of these EV threads I asked H2Odoc a few months ago how his climate repair model will reverse plate tectonics. Not received an answer yet. Maybe they forgot about how it affects the climate...

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Fcman is a tiny bit more classy.

Less exclamations and caps make the difference

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Somehow I doubt the new mantra of the Climate Zombies will be "Save the planet, eat a dog"

Team Big Blue put this out this morning:

"The best scientific information available projects a 15- to 30-foot rise in sea level by 2100 if current trends continue"


What I read:

"The best scientific information we funded and directed output on projects a 15- to 30-foot rise in sea level by 2100 if current trends continue"

This is why so many of them paid $5000 a sf to live oceanfront.
Clapping seals gonna clap.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Team Big Blue put this out this morning:

"The best scientific information available projects a 15- to 30-foot rise in sea level by 2100 if current trends continue"


What I read:

"The best scientific information we funded and directed output on projects a 15- to 30-foot rise in sea level by 2100 if current trends continue"

This is why so many of them paid $5000 a sf to live oceanfront.
Clapping seals gonna clap.

It is clear that dire predictions over the past thirty years have been dramatically and demonstrably and egregiously inaccurate. This undermines the narrative and is counterproductive.

[gonzo]

^

Makes you wonder, not myself, why so many of our in office peeps signed off on this claim this morning.
Half kidding. They dont actually believe it. Only the most dense and devoted buy it.
30 feet...oh my.

[M5Rick]

Stop press! Greta Thunberg has been run over by an EV, so quiet she never heard but..Just kidding!

Seriously though how many kids are getting hit by EV's because they are so quiet, I brought this up way back in the thread but someone like BGP (I think) just laughed it off.
It's another thing the greenies want to sweep under the carpet hoping no one notices.

[gonzo]

German climate protester gets drug by her hair to the curb. Crawls back to block traffic. German woman grabs her purple hair again and drags her to back to the curb.

Sure glad she didn't have her hands glued to mother earth. Might of been bald today.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by gonzo

German climate protester gets drug by her hair to the curb. Crawls back to block traffic. German woman grabs her purple hair again and drags her to back to the curb.

Sure glad she didn't have her hands glued to mother earth. Might have been bald today.

Did you ever notice how many climate activist dye their hair pink, purple etc. Made me wonder what's in hair dye and low and behold it is made with petroleum products.

[David70]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Okay, I'll try...

You said $48K average vehicle price. Since 93% of the market is ICE, the average is comprised mostly of ICE pricing. You then said the price of the Model 3 (with tax credit) is $34K (i.e. well below the ICE average price), which implies the Model 3 has parity of pricing with ICE. Parity is implied based on the Model 3 being lower in price (with tax rebate) than the ICE average, then $34K is within the realm of ICE pricing (i.e "parity").

$48k average price is a fact.

$34k price for a base Model 3 after federal tax rebate is a fact. Neither of these facts imply an EV has price parity with an equal size/spec ICE.

I stated the price gap between ICE/EV is getting smaller. For some reason you read this and think I am saying they are equal.

The logic you are trying to use baffles me.

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by David70

$48k average price is a fact.

$34k price for a base Model 3 after federal tax rebate is a fact. Neither of these facts imply an EV has price parity with an equal size/spec ICE.

I stated the price gap between ICE/EV is getting smaller. For some reason you read this and think I am saying they are equal.

The logic you are trying to use baffles me.

Model 3 is a giant POS inside IMO. I sat in 1 recently and man talk about taking minimalism to a whole new level.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gblansten

It is clear that dire predictions over the past thirty years have been dramatically and demonstrably and egregiously inaccurate. This undermines the narrative and is counterproductive.

Only to those of us that look at the data and geologic history but to the Climate Zombies, facts wash off their backs like water off a ducks back.

[FrankMstein]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I'll take your word for it.

From the bastion of conservatism, The Harvard Gazette
Wind farms will cause more environmental impact than previously thought

In two papers — published today in the journals Environmental Research Letters and Joule — Harvard University researchers find that the transition to wind or solar power in the U.S. would require five to 20 times more land than previously thought, and, if such large-scale wind farms were built, would warm average surface temperatures over the continental U.S. by 0.24 degrees Celsius.

The Harvard researchers found that the warming effect of wind turbines in the continental U.S. was actually larger than the effect of reduced emissions for the first century of its operation. This is because the warming effect is predominantly local to the wind farm, while greenhouse gas concentrations must be reduced globally before the benefits are realized.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...its-down-side/

Which is why they are looking off shore. Also wind farms are not the only source of renewable.