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[KRS_SN]

Very interesting...Poland v EU

https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/07/...mate-policies/

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

Very interesting...Poland v EU

https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/07/...mate-policies/

Well done Poland!

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Climate change is the new religion of the left.

Fun Fact: During the Ordovician period CO2 was about 8 times preindustrial, about 2,400ppm. The Ordovician featured a Biodiversification period, an ice age and a mass extinction event.

For the benefit of members who have not had an opportunity to study Geology and paleontology. The following passage from Wikipedia's page on the Trilobite sums up how real climate change including plate tectonics affects any species on Earth:

"Trilobite fossils are found worldwide, with thousands of known species. Because they appeared quickly in geological time, and moulted like other arthropods, trilobites serve as excellent index fossils, enabling geologists to date the age of the rocks in which they are found. They were among the first fossils to attract widespread attention, and new species are being discovered every year.


Fossil hunters look for trilobites and other fossils in Penn Dixie Fossil Park and Nature Preserve.

In the United States, the best open-to-the-public collection of trilobites is located in Hamburg, New York. The shale quarry, informally known as Penn Dixie, stopped mining in the 1960s. The large amounts of trilobites were discovered in the 1970s by Dan Cooper. As a well-known rock collector, he incited scientific and public interest in the location. The fossils are dated to the Givetian (387.2 - 382.7 million years ago) when the Western New York Region was 30 degrees south of the equator and completely covered in water. The site was purchased from Vincent C. Bonerb by the Town of Hamburg with the cooperation of the Hamburg Natural History Society to protect the land from development. In 1994, the quarry became Penn Dixie Fossil Park & Nature Reserve when they received 501(c)3 status and was opened for visitation and collection of trilobite samples. The two most common found samples are Eldredgeops rana and Greenops.

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by gblansten

It is clear that dire predictions over the past thirty years have been dramatically and demonstrably and egregiously inaccurate. This undermines the narrative and is counterproductive.

Going to share what is inaccurate & provide facts?

This is not a post calling you a liar. Lots of folks post all kinds of things, but never any facts & data to back it up.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by FrankMstein

[/URL]Which is why they are looking off shore.

Yes by all means move them off shore where the dead birds can't be seen and the noise from the turbines is a distant hum and where the construction is likely killing humpback whales.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Going to share what is inaccurate & provide facts?

This is not a post calling you a liar. Lots of folks post all kinds of things, but ever any facts & data to back it up.

I'm a liar and I am not going to post facts. Letmegooglethatforyou.com is an option.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

Very interesting...Poland v EU

https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/07/...mate-policies/

Will never happen here as the inmates are running the asylum.

[FrankMstein]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Yes by all means move them off shore where the dead birds can't be seen and the noise from the turbines is a distant hum and where the construction is likely killing humpback whales.

And where the cancer won't get me? Is it grape or cherry flavor?

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Going to share what is inaccurate & provide facts?

Inquiring minds would love to know where YOU get your news?

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by FrankMstein

And where the cancer won't get me? Is it grape or cherry flavor?

You really can't imagine how little I care about what Trump has to say.

Odd, No wind turbines will be in the waters near Martha’s Vineyard (where the Obamas live), Rehoboth Beach (where the Bidens live) or Crane Beach (or near where John Kerry lives or where the King of Wind himself, NJ Gov Phil Murphy

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Trilobite sums up how real climate change including plate tectonics affects any species on Earth:

Wow that brings back memories. My facility adviser was known as the king of Trilobites. Back then this was Paleontology 101 for energy exploration.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Model 3 is a giant POS inside IMO. I sat in 1 recently and man talk about taking minimalism to a whole new level.

Youd love the 707, lots of flippy switches and round gauges. I guess for the ADD it makes sense.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Only to those of us that look at the data and geologic history but to the Climate Zombies, facts wash off their backs like water off a ducks back.

That you don’t understand the most basic premise of the theory is obvious here. Hint: it’s not amount of temperature change.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

Going to share what is inaccurate & provide facts?

This is not a post calling you a liar. Lots of folks post all kinds of things, but ever any facts & data to back it up.

1970's scare meme was the Earth was cooling and entering the next ice age, food shortages and mass starvation. Gasoline was gong to be scarce by 1995. Nuclear energy is unsafe. Killer bees. Ozone depletion.

Just off the top of my head.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by RM7

That you don’t understand the most basic premise of the theory is obvious here. Hint: it’s not amount of temperature change.

Right. It's the rate of temperature rise...

Did I win?

[FrankMstein]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

You really can't imagine how little I care about what Trump has to say.

Odd, No wind turbines will be in the waters near Martha’s Vineyard (where the Obamas live), Rehoboth Beach (where the Bidens live) or Crane Beach (or near where John Kerry lives or where the King of Wind himself, NJ Gov Phil Murphy

Could have fooled me given your air-tight logic. Those high rent places are never going to cost feasible no matter who their other RWNJ neighbors might be, uh, duh!

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by FrankMstein

Those high rent places are never going to cost feasible no matter who their other RWNJ neighbors might be, uh, duh!

I think you missed the part about OFF SHORE?

In Federal Lawsuit, Nantucket Residents Say Offshore Wind Will Harm Endangered Whales.
the plaintiffs are OK with having wind farms as long as they are farther from the coast shows that their real motivation is "aesthetics."
https://www.wbur.org/news/2021/08/25...angered-whales

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I think you missed the part about OFF SHORE?

In Federal Lawsuit, Nantucket Residents Say Offshore Wind Will Harm Endangered Whales.
the plaintiffs are OK with having wind farms as long as they are farther from the coast shows that their real motivation is "aesthetics."
https://www.wbur.org/news/2021/08/25...angered-whales

I think using dead plants and animals (known as fossil fuels) is the better use of dead things. The Earth has been making fossil fuel materials for 4 billion years. We've been using fossil fuels in earnest for about 150 years. There is still plenty left. Why kill new whales when we can use the old dead whales first?

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I'm a liar and I am not going to post facts. Letmegooglethatforyou.com is an option.

So you're another internet troll talking out of their butt, got it. To the ignore list for you

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Inquiring minds would love to know where YOU get your news?

Question everything, sir.

Sounds like you confused my post with someone else and/or misunderstood my point.

Good day

[FrankMstein]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

I think you missed the part about OFF SHORE?

In Federal Lawsuit, Nantucket Residents Say Offshore Wind Will Harm Endangered Whales.
the plaintiffs are OK with having wind farms as long as they are farther from the coast shows that their real motivation is "aesthetics."
https://www.wbur.org/news/2021/08/25...angered-whales

That will always happen. Always no matter who is near the land and especially how cheap the alternatives are. Those "Residents" include, should be, everyone and more than you just mentioned. I don't know why your side likes to divide with a social issue. Could it be the lack of ideas? Every accusation is an admission of guilt or playbook, it's not hard to see and quite predictable.

Go take a cruise past Lafayette IN. They are there for miles and miles and see tens of thousands. I don't want them in my back yard either which is why I live in an established area. Yeah I guess I miss the point you are trying to make. This is boring.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

The Earth has been making fossil fuel materials for 4 billion years.

Fossil fuels are the original renewable resource. We are creating them now as the climate zombies whine about global climate change. Today's climate zombie will be tomorrow's petro deposit.