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03-15-2018, 10:21 AM | #309 | |
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Also, something that has bugged me since my time with BMW is the direction of the idrive controller has always seemed backwards to me, now I think they have reversed it to make, what I think, more sense in the way it zooms in and out |
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03-15-2018, 10:25 AM | #310 | |
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what has changed on the indicator stalk? Do you mean the zoom when looking at a map in sat nav? turning clockwise to zoom and anticlockwise to zoom out? If so, that was also in my F01...has that changed now too? Or are you talking about some other zoom function? Thanks.
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At least they rendered the car the right colour!
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The manual talks about there being 5 radar sensors for these features to work so maybe older cars only had the one? To be honest only thought there would be the one you know right at the front bumper but there's two in the front sides and two more in the rear sides. There's a video for ActiveAssist Collision Avoidance which shows the car heading too fast towards stopped traffic on a motorway in your lane. If a lane is clear on the side which the car already knows from its sensors you just need to start turning the wheel a little I think and the car will kind of take over and get you moved across lanes quickly / automatically. Driverless tech is slowly but surely filtering down to cars more and more. Quote:
It's fine, rub it in. He's been teasing us with shots of his 7 while we were waiting. It's like a strip tease but you cannot touch but now time to get your own back Last edited by FastLaneJB; 03-15-2018 at 10:51 AM.. |
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Regarding the map zoom, I need to double check now as I'm doubting myself. I was sure they had reversed it from the way it was on all my other BMWs but I might be wrong |
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Agree though, autonomous is here to stay and only getting more involved... I say we use the EMP (electro magnetic pulse) on them (first having parked up and turned everything off!) tyzer, when they drive by... Living up to the name Gangsta Princess!
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Lots of changes it seems....maybe we should ask the forum moderators to create a separate G11/G12 sub forum for them tyzer?
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GULP....Noooo, say it ain't so.....
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Quick update -
Just back from BMW. They have agreed to respray the bumper which is good because I can get rid of the bush damage. However I would prefer them to replace the bumper with a factory sprayed one, so I'm pushing them on that. The identified the speaker issue and the part is on back order but I'm tempted to ask them to not do it, and just take the car in for a stage one audio upgrade, because I find the HK sound to be basically rubbish. It's much worse than in my 6. Music is an important part of my life outside the car (it's a shame I couldn't splash out on the B&W sound as my hours has B&W in almost every room!) so I think I might go for an all round upgrade. Problem is finding somewhere good to do the work. |
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Sound: interesting. A very personal and subjective discussion point! While I have no issue with the fact that B & W speakers are very 'true' and reproduce flawlessly (to the point it can highlight all sorts of issues in the recording), are you sure it is indeed the HK system and not just the music chain to that end? In other words, and likely this has been paid attention to by you as an audiophile...but are you streaming standard iTunes AAC converted files via BT to the stereo? If so, then the sound issues may be in that chain rather than the stereo...I personally know I have different tastes than some for the 'colour' of my music sound and prefer systems and sound that helps this over faithful 'clarity' like the B & W's but I do find the DAC conversion to be really poor if one is not careful and also consider whether wired or wireless will be better for sound if it is important...some people use really over the top adapters on iPhones to do a DAC at rates well above what I would hear or value... I'm not saying the HK system is the be all and end all, however, I find it decent enough and while bass heavy and a bit muddled in the mid range it is reasonable if you stream files at decent bit rates using online entertainment as a starting point from Deezer (that seems better conversion rates than DAB for example). Then consider if the sound is indeed the source (conversion rate/sampling rate) or transfer medium (BT v wired) or if it is truly the HK system that is the weakest link here? Again, likely you've considered all this if you have put B & W in the house as that is not a cheap undertaking...very nice indeed...but just in case? Maybe I am just showing my age and limited range of hearing these days (I won't pretend to hear anything above 12 KHz anymore, although I can still feel/hear very low frequencies, below 20 Hz). Not heard the B & W system in the 7, will have to give that a go (hopefully in a 760 test drive someday) but also curious what aftermarket route you would go? I used to do my own stereo fitting in the past (back 20 years ago)...but as things have changed, not followed or seen what is done today...Would you for example just replace the speakers or would you add crossovers / amps? Even the head unit if that is a plug in module for the control system and can be done? The speakers in cars are generally crap to be sure, curious if you have a website for a car audio specialist in the UK? Even just to geek out and browse for concepts, technology these days...
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Being a (now infrequent) musician who has done some very loud gigs, as well as worked at mastering volume in a number of semi pro studios, I used to get my hearing checked regularly, and last time I checked I still had a good range, close to 20KHz, and in my home life, audiophile quality matters to me. I have long been a fan of B&W and over the years have spent way more than what I sold my 6 for on speakers and amps. My current side job is custom installation which I'm trying to get off the ground, and I generally spec B&W in walls for that sort of work, not exclusively but a lot of the time. Anyway, I dont have the same audiphile requirements in the car, I accept that it's an awkward space for sound, it's never going to give me the soundstage I want. But I still try and keep the signal chain as pure as possible by using FLAC on USBs for my own collection of music, or ALAC if possible on iPhones, (although you can play FLAC on iPhones now). That's not to say however that I don't use Spotify, in fact I use that the majority of the time just to give me access to everything, but I accept that the quality is not going to be the best. But even using high quality music, going over USB, or playing a CD, I won't hyperbole and say it sounds terrible, but it doesn't sound great. What's more surprising is how much better the HK sound was in the 6 than in the 7. In terms of what to upgrade to, I would only ever do any upgrade that was a drop in, like for like replacement. I'm well passed the stage of building subs and speaker enclosures, definitely wouldn't want to change anything visibly. Therefore there are 2 manufacturers that I know of, Bavsound in the US who do drop in replacements, and Eton based in Germany who also do kits for BMWs. Both are quite highly regarded but Eton seems to be easier and cheaper to get hold of over here. My main concern is that I don't want to do it myself, I've done that a number of times in older cars and I don't want the risk of breaking a panel or clip or introducing rattles. So I need to find a local company that will install one of these kits for me, I'm still looking for someone I can trust. |
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I have to agree the the HW is a bit of a disappointment, but i could not stretch for the BW.
on another side note, 325_bucks, I'm currently looking for a new receiver for my B&W 5.1. I'm looking to go 7.1.2 but can't make my mind up on which one to go for (Denon, Marantz etc etc) any suggestions or recommendations? |
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Thanks 325_bucks, sounded like you knew what you were talking about from what you were saying, just wanted to ask the question. You're more serious than I am by a good measure! and know what you're on about so hope you can find a shop to do the quality and work you are looking for. Please do let me know if you do find one, would be useful to know...I'll give the two brands you mentioned a google, thanks for that. ^
Have always loved the look and approach of B & W, never owned them myself, have always wanted to do a proper listen to 801's (or whatever the equivalent is these days) to see how they sound to me (with my system/music or at least one that is warm). Considered some of their smaller speakers for the lounge these days as not really wanting the big separates anymore and the footprint that the wall of speakers/components take up...But I digress, yet again! My only thoughts about why the 6 may have been better for sound than the current 7 is that my personal (and completely anecdotal) thoughts are they reduced the amount of sound insolation and material used in the cars in general and as you'll know its not just want one belts out (and the quality of that sound) but what one also minimises and reduces...so my feeling is the weight saving this car has is also achieved in reducing the sound damping material in the doors, headlining, etc...which will impact on sound quality and ambient dB levels in the car compared to F series approach...You may find that the company will need to add material around the speaker to help this if they do a replacement (within the space available to still be 'standard BMW'. Good luck with the side business, definitely a future in it in the UK with the way technology is going and space limitations in the houses. I've finally got a lounge that is ideal for sound distribution do love my music as well, just appreciate that my discerning ear is a lot less discerning in terms of hearing the details any more...
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In pm so that we don’t derail this forum too much, they aren’t cheap but might be able to get you a discount through my supplier. |
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03-16-2018, 11:08 AM | #326 | |
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I myself would love a pair of the latest 805, they are perfect speakers to me, and suitable for most homes. Still need good amps but not necessarily as many as the bigger ones. They are stand mounters that sound as good as any floor mount that I've heard, with the exception of the bigger 800s of course. But I love the sound of them. One day, when the kids have arrived and are a bit older and I can get my listening room back again, a pair will be mine! |
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Very nice rack setup BTW, like Pelo said, you are taking serious up a couple of notches from us! |
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I can almost certainly do you a deal on that but I need to check with my suppliers. PM Me if you're interested and we can talk
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03-16-2018, 12:16 PM | #329 | |
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No issue with stand mounts personally, have a 'stand mount' currently actually (in the form of Bose 901's) which are okay for some music but terrible at others, getting long in the tooth now though, we bought them way back in the early 90's! (yikes, they're now 26 years old...I'm officially old!) Anyway, both tyzer and I bow down to your audio godness...
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I cannot join into this that much with sound, I'm not that fussy with it to be honest though got a nice ATMOS setup for the living room recently for movies which is really nice. However when I say nice, it's probably a fraction of the cost your shelling out here.
On another note, that's a lot of ethernet in your rack 325_bucks . Are even your toilets IoT enabled? Hehe |
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