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The forums are here to learn and share. I'm an engineer. I can't help but to be overly-logical and inquisitive about the details that drives one to sell a particular car and move to another. FWIW, both OP and I have owned P-cars in the past (he owning quite a few more than me!). I exchanged PMs with Steven and it's all good in the hood. The car is beautiful and it's a Porsche. I have nothing negative to say about it and would trade my M240i for it in a heartbeat - just wouldn't pay to make the upgrade is all. I wanted to understand why he made the decision he did, again, for perspective, really. Sorry, Steven, if my comments made your new purchase any less special! (Something tells me it did not. ) Cheers!
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Congratulations, Steven! The car's beauty is obvious and the driving experience will be outstanding. My jealousy is that I don't really fit well (or is it able to bend enough?) for Porsche! My son had a Cayman, and although being slender, my height and "bendability" made getting in and out so challenging that I started to turn down chances to drive it. Wish it wasn't so, but now also living a bit vicariously through you! Enjoy many happy and safe miles/years ahead!
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the 981 Cayman was more than double the price of the z4 coupe and cost me more in depreciation in 2 years than the z4 coupe cost me in 4 was it twice the driving experience? no but I am still glad I did it sometimes if you just want something you should go for it |
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Congratulations, Steven!
I expect we will all miss your witty observations and comments on the forum and you have yourself a really fine new ride. Enjoy it in good health and good luck! Unicorn.
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You guys are all so great; thanks for all the really kind words.
I'm thinking that since the convo quickly shifted to the new P-car (great topic, BTW!), I should try to get the thread moved over to the General car forum where I'd feel more comfy in elaborating on my first two amazing days of break-in miles, and other P-nonsense! This forum is ***THE BEST***.
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The 991.2 you got is incredibly fast with those new turbo flat-6's. And having owned a 2013 991 for a brief time, the handling is not similar to my m235i, its far better but takes a more skillful hand to extract. At first, all I got was understeer and oversteer until a racer buddy of mine told me, drive it as if with go-kart physics, ie load up the front tires into corners, get on the power early out of turns. Holy crap, when you get it just right its rather insane the amount of speed you can carry into a corner, not to mention crazy fun. Also, I'll never forget the tactility in the steering, never drove anything since that has had that level of feel and precision. Lastly, just look at the damn thing. Despite all the supercars in Miami, a modern 911 in the right color still always cuts such a beautiful, elegant, and sporty profile. One day, hopefully, I'll pick up the 992 with its new big, wide butt! |
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Yes, please elaborate on your thoughts with the T. I love the new car, BTW. Congrats on a the new car and I'm curious as to why you personally chose the T over the other 991 iterations.
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Here are a few pics from today's pre-detail prep work. Next two days will be clay bar, RejeX, etc.
Will try to reply to questions of interest soon.
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A little off-topic, but I would totally love to see a track battle between the M2 Competition and either a base 991.2 Carrera 2 or the Carrera T w/ sofas on a ~3 mile course like VIR, for example.. Same driver and same transmission option for both - either DCT/PDK or 6-speed/7-speed manual. I think this would be a fun battle to watch and probably as "apples to apples" as we can get if comparing the two platforms. The Carrera is down on power and torque, but also weighs ~400 lbs less. Any volunteers out there who want to join me at VIR this year for either the PCA HPDE or BMW CCA HPDE? I'll bring my lowly M240i and a stopwatch.
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How so? Why would a clay bar damage new paint, but not contaminated paint? If anything, the potential for picking up debris and moving it along the clear coat is only going to be possible with dirty/contaminated paint.
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Beautiful car, congrats. I have also just started the search to get into a Cayman S this year. I drove one earlier this year and was hooked. Obviously different than your 911 but I definitely get the excitement. Very interested to hear your first driving thoughts.
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I think clay bar has some amount of abrasiveness otherwise it would not be able to pick up fine debris. For older car, the advantage outweighs the risk. But for a brand new car, I don't think you need clay bar and risking damaging the clear paint layer.
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I get your point about not messing with a new car, but even new cars are driven by dealership employees, transported on open carriers, etc. Still best to do a fine detail job, including clay bar if necessary, before applying wax or ceramic coatings. I believe quality auto clay is 100% non-abrasive. At least that is what I've seen advertised...
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Would I do it to a new car? Depends on how long the car has been sitting outside and/or driven. If the paint looks and feels rough, claying the car will only improve things. The idea that you're going to damage the paint on a new car if you decide to clay it is ludicrous, IMO. |
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I personally wouldn't want to take the clear coat down on a new car too but if you take it to apply ppf or a ceramic coating, the shop is going to polish out scratches and swirls before applying anything. Also, chances are that the dealership already polished it before delivery. You can't have your cake and eat it too. I think the key is to be as meticulous as possible and polish it just enough to remove visible abrasions before applying a protection.
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