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      11-13-2023, 09:43 AM   #4929
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At the 6 min mark is GM having moved only 18 Silverado EV units in Q3

It’s over folks

Time for all Canadians and Americans to now pick up the tab that comes with making the decision to vote for woke governments

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      11-13-2023, 02:51 PM   #4931
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“When GM began the journey to an electric and autonomous future, our mission was to help create a better and safer future for all, guided by our vision of zero crashes, zero emissions and zero congestion.”
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      11-13-2023, 05:07 PM   #4932
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The pens and pencils of history are going to be brutal. Lol

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Diarrhea finger-painting or mean tweets?
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If I was a auto exec I would be erasing my EV social media posts.
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      11-13-2023, 06:17 PM   #4934
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Luxury electric vehicle manufacturer losing $227,000 per car with stunning $630 million net loss last quarter
Luxury electric vehicle manufacturer Lucid Motors has posted massive losses while reportedly losing over $225,000 per sold car.
According to the company's latest quarterly earnings release, the market has not responded well to its products.
In total, the company's "Free Cash Flow" was a whopping negative $706.1 million. These numbers are actually an upgrade from 2022, when the company lost $530 million and was in the hole for $860 million.
When it went public, Lucid Motors had a market value of $91 billion in November 2021 despite only having produced 125 cars. Stock prices at the time peaked around $53 per share but have since plummeted to approximately $4 per share at the time of this publication.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/luxury...s-last-quarter

I'm sure they will make it up in volume next quarter
Poor business model or Green Grift.
I'm going with Green Grift
Lucid Group has published a new Form 8-K listing the new approved salaries for the executive team at Lucid Motors. On May 26, 2022, the Compensation Committee of the Board of Directors of Lucid Group, Inc. approved an increase to the annual base salaries of the following named executive officers of the Company effective as of June 6, 2022.
Name / Title / New Base Salary / Previous Salary
Sherry House / Chief Financial Officer / $535,000 /$317,308
Eric Bach / Senior VP, Product & Engineer / $525,000 / $414,423
Michael Bell / Senior VP, Digital / $525,000 /$500,962
https://www.lucidinsider.com/2022/06...tive-officers/
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      11-14-2023, 03:02 AM   #4935
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Time to find the bomb shelter with this one

Fresh of the press with the Macmaster.
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Polestar 2 with the performance slightly quicker than a Maluch (Fiat 600).
This vehicle, always in white is being pushed in advertising at Sky movies start times.
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If I was a auto exec I would be erasing my EV social media posts.
If I were an auto Executive, I'd give the middle finger to the Green politicians and issue a set of pure serial hybrid vehicles; sports sedan, sports coupe, SUVs, and pickups all using a scaled serial hybrid EV drivetrain.

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VW halts EV production again.

https://electrek.co/2023/11/10/volks...qCW66go7yJjPKA
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If I was a auto exec I would be erasing my EV social media posts.
That and Dikipedia already drafting stealth edits.

*what happened to LMAAAOOO?
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That and Dikipedia already drafting stealth edits.

*what happened to LMAAAOOO?
I was going to add a comment to my post about GM halting EV production.

2035 LMAAAOOO
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Porsche with breakthrough zero emission ICE. 2035 LAAAMMMOOOO.
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well I have to say ... I though i was not going to get EV vehicle until it was the only option. return my wife x3m40 lease. and thought i was going to get in to x5x50e, and for the fun of it also test drove IX.

went home with an IX50. was quicker , higher MSRP and most important. way lower lease payement. that was the key point. with all the discount. I under why all EV are losing money on every sales. major discounts.
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Some more T misery.
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      11-15-2023, 07:22 AM   #4943
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Great you need a back up ICE vehicle for when your EV won't run.
Who didn't see that coming.

Here is your hint for the day, Don't buy the EV and save some environmental damage and buy a nicer ICE vehicle which you will keep longer and thus do less damage to the environment.
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Great you need a back up ICE vehicle for when your EV won't run.
Who didn't see that coming.

Here is your hint for the day, Don't buy the EV and save some environmental damage and buy a nicer ICE vehicle which you will keep longer and thus do less damage to the environment.
Couldn't have said it better myself
Shame so many dive into the EV trap (which is so easy to avoid)
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      11-15-2023, 07:56 AM   #4945
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Great you need a back up ICE vehicle for when your EV won't run.
Who didn't see that coming.

Here is your hint for the day, Don't buy the EV and save some environmental damage and buy a nicer ICE vehicle which you will keep longer and thus do less damage to the environment.
Or just let the free market make its choice... like it always had, a car is not a necessity to life.

I'll just say it, government is way too at the whims of a very select few so the same select few can line its pockets with even more wealth.

EV has its place, and people can freely enjoy their's if they desire.
But don't legislate and force through limitations and mandates to try and drive the direction of the free market at the cost of us tax payers, especially those who don't happen to make 500k a year

There is about a gazillion things world governments can spend to better the livelihood of its citizen, maybe even just spend it on planting trees, improving the roads, improving public transit, improving public education and public health, hell clean drinking water and maybe more pro-active stance on recycling and garbage disposal are all part of a big solution

And I am the minority here that support the green agenda, there are far better things to actually slow if not stop climate change if that was indeed its main goal.
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Meanwhile in Germany:

BMW stops production of ICE vehicles in Deutschland

https://electrek.co/2023/11/15/bmw-h...many-at-least/
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BMW Group Wraps Up €8b Sustainable Credit Deal
For the first time, the BMW Group emphasised its strategic focus on sustainability throughout the syndication process. It provided participating banks with a comprehensive sustainability fact sheet, delivering transparent information on the company's progress and goals. In addition, the BMW Group issued questionnaires to lenders, seeking their perspectives on sustainability performance to drive continuous improvements in sustainability communications.
Walter Mertl, Chief Financial Officer of BMW AG, highlighted the company's commitment to sustainability, encompassing economic, ecological, and social aspects. Mertl stated that the BMW Group's sustainability efforts were deeply integrated into its divisions and long-term strategy. The company's activities and progress were transparently presented, emphasising a holistic approach that extended beyond key figures.

During the syndication process, the BMW Group's sustainability experts engaged in exchanges with participating banks, elaborating on the company's strategic direction and sustainable transformation in greater detail.

The syndicated revolving credit line, a standard financing instrument of BMW Group Corporate Finance, ensures short-term liquidity access. Remarkably, the credit line has never been utilised in the company's history.

https://www.knowesg.com/sustainable-...-deal-07062023

While you might think the free market has some effect on EV manufacturing but the facts are there are market forces that will force these companies to produce EV's even when they are sitting on docks.

The world is closer to China than anyone wants to admit.
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Spartanburg is where x3,4,5,6,7,x3m,x5m are made.
Germany with the green crazy coalition =only make EV move may net subsidies etc
UK with plan to delay ice ban etc makes ICE
Seems like a strategic move by BMW.
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Vauxhall's latest car ad I've seen now for the first time with ''Petrol or Electric'' added at the end.
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*what happened to LMAAAOOO?
He is lost in some convenience store somewhere counting the packs of gum in the gum isle for the 5th time while waiting for his EV to charge.
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