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Yes! I look forward to its many motorsport victories.
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There is a reason why the V12 Petrol engine (BMW N74) has more torque than any of the diesel engines in the F01/F02 lineup. And for full-fledged M-cars, diesel is not yet there. Sure for M Performance models it could work (M550d, X5 M50d, etc.) but for full-M cars, not so much... |
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For high performance there is the Alpina B7 which will come later next year. The reason why a B6 Gran Coupe is here is to provide sales sustainability until the next 7er especially in the US. As when the B7 ends production Alpina will not have anything to offer US customers.
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Ohh snap.!
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Also- clearly we've reached the top of the BMW bull market we're in. This is, at best, a low volume albatross (maybe Phaeton?). Between the M5 and X5/6M how many luxo-M buyers are left? It's sad, really, as the the development money wasted here could go toward making series BMWs better cars. BMW built its brand from the bottom up. Best performance cars in the price range (and often better than price ranges above). Now enthusiasts cling to sub brands (i and M) while series cars are stay afloat on lofty residuals... |
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There won't be a 770 anything. The flagship is the BMW 760Li.
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Since the new G20 makes extensive use of CFRP, this could be further implemented by the ///M boys making an awesome and light super limousine.
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So then is this car an M760d or an M7?
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After all, who wouldn't want the cache of having the first M7, which is lighter the competition, which means, more agile, more responsive, and gets better gas mileage? |
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Have in mind though that the 50d engine is only 10Nm short of V12's 750Nm , basically there is no difference in power delivery except for top speed when removed limiter , which you rarely ever ever do , except if you live near the autobahn , which most of people here do not. It'a almost unfair to compare these two but look how much power this 3.0tri turbo punches , a lot! There is also a serious piece of work in audi , it's called Q7 V12 TDi , this beast makes 1000Nm of torque and has 500hp and it's a big big 5,9l IMO this engine makes more sense than a W12 6.3 in A8 , it's much more smoother and drives like a freight train , simply put it this way-more torque = more relaxed and more fun at overtaking...But thats audi , and they can obviously do and make whatever they want. Im bored right now and pissed off because bmw can do better but doesn't , they should be at the very top competing with Panamera's and Quattroporte's and Rapide's not audi and Mb who btw have way more distinguished models imho than bmw past present future. 2 series at> make sense in a certain market for a certain group of people but hey so does b class for quite some time now , why does it take them so much years to figure out these things? Why not have a proper S coupe rival? why not have a proper super hyper uber duber whatever amg sls slr competitor? Why not have a proper full size 7 seater , many people do need these things with a premium badge! Why not make an M7 or 775i or whatever already? Is the new 5 series going to be just an L version of the XL version they call a 7 series? I wonder...why don't they go radical and make a car like the VFL and call it a 7 series , like they did with the i8 - who looks like a concept car from a year 2071 , unbelievable its just shows you that they can do things when they want. |
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There won't be an M770i because the V12 is a 760i and it doesn't make sense to have 770 which is a V8.
There will most likely be an M750i or M755i and it will be an M-Performance automobile - probably with an S63 engine and a weight close to that of the current M5 (thanks to carbon fiber). The M750i car will likely offer a 0-60 time of 3.7-3.9 seconds. If there is an M7 it will either be a tuned up version of the M750i or it will be a V12.
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Alpina B7 is not an M7 after all...
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That's true. What it comes down to is meeting regulatory requirements measured by miles per gallon and not miles per dollar.
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Putting an M badge on that engine is pathetic and if you do it then not only will I not but this car, buy I will probably just go and buy a Mercedes S63 instead.
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Yup this post seems logical. Either way, we'll see how it goes At least we can have enough of this lousy Alpina bullshit that thinks it can hold a candle against full AMG and Audi S/RS models xD |
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