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whereas the n63 used in the non-LCI 7 series, 650i, etc, dynos pretty much exactly at the rated power figures in the 450hp range. still looking for an M850i dyno however as I want to see what they are making. |
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E38 was and still is sex on wheels. Love that generation.
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Like others - I hate those grills. So ridiculous. Out of proportion. Overly trendy (and therefore will be quickly dated - especially as electric vehicles become more popular which don't need grills at all and people get used to that look). Not necessary. Thank god they didn't do this with the 8 series coupe.
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First M-Package pics are in...
Damn, completely different ball game!!! 😎
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My main problem with these grills is not necessarily the size but the shape. The shape looks like a normal BMW grill which has been proportionally enlarged in all dimensions.
Because of that, it looks like someone took a normal grill and enlarged it in photoshop. As a result the car looks like a bad photoshop job in regards to the grill. If the shape were molded more into the front ends new angular design i think the sheer size alone wouldn't be as much of an issue. Regardless, overall it's a nice update
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Just a sampling from my fellow car-fans (many who own BMWs) after showing them these posts/pics. -"It's just the Bangle Bustle moved to the front" -"Oh great, more Edsel aesthetics ” -“About as attractive as a Grouper’s Mouth” -“not functional, not aerodynamic, not attractive at any angle” -“Come on BMW, LEAD DON’T FOLLOW – Audi/Lexus into grill oblivion!” -“I was considering moving from my 5 to a new 7, forget it now!” -“Killing a perfectly wonderful automobile with toothy grill bling, grow up!” -"what happened to understated elegance?" -"Haven't we reached PEAK BLING yet?" -“This styling mistake (along with Lexus/Audi) will go down as the Mullet of car fashion” I personally can’t add a thing to these ;-) |
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01-16-2019, 01:02 PM | #52 |
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I find it funny that the hockey stick was the major complaint for the first version, I think this one looks much worse from a design standpoint, but everyone's concerned about the grills.
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01-16-2019, 01:14 PM | #53 |
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LCI looks awesome ! Much better than bubbly Benz.
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Everybody has their favorite part -- or unfavorite part. I am reserving judgment until I see it in person, and I am looking forward to that. So far, there are a lot of things to like even if the grille is considered a negative. Same goes for the hockey sticks. From what I have seen the M package ameliorates the hockey sticks. I don't have the M package on my '17 but frankly got used to the hockey sticks very quickly. I am guessing the grille will not deter me if I like the driving dynamics and ergonomics.
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Wow, new 8-cylinder engine with 0-60 on 3.9 seconds? Isn't it the same for M4? If so, the new 7 is a speed boat; used to be just a boat....
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Viel zu viel. I like G11 better. That was nice 7er. E38 is still the best looking one tho.
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01-16-2019, 03:44 PM | #58 |
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Looks good. Anyone know if the shorter wheelbase is coming back to the US?
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The monstrous grill kills the looks of this car. It's insane that they went with something like that.
The revised V8 has great specs. If they also finally fixed the issues that plagued earlier versions of the N63, that would be awesome. |
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The grille looks positively absurd. It's wildly unnecessary and fails to make the car look any more aggressive, elegant or modern.
How does BMW revert back to smaller grilles going forward? Look at Audi, the grilles across the entire model range have only gotten bigger and bigger...
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The grill situation needs to stop. It's starting to get ridiculous. BMW can you hear us from over there?!?!
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I actually like the look of the Big Grill on the X5 and X7 because they can absorb the look since they are SUV's. On the new 7 it looks kind of odd and disproportionate. Not a fan
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