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I still wonder why MB and BMW are investing so much effort in converting those executive cars into real drivers cars. Or is this the result of a majestic balancing act between the USP's required for Asian, EU and US markets (meaning: they have to excel in all dimensions that matter world wide)? |
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As for the S-Class, I own the W223 S580, and it does handle well for its size, but I wouldn't say they are making it into a real driver's car. I think additions such as modern technologies like active suspensions, rear-axle steering, as well as EPS steering which will feature a quicker ratio than older and heavier hydraulic racks, gives the illusion of it being more of a driver's car, when in reality its more so just the modern tech working with the chassis better. and creating a more balanced handling vehicle, that also happens to be very comfortable. |
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looks great to me... for a luxo and tech showcase it does well... i feel a luxury car of this price has to be a bit riduculous and it is... so it will sell well... hell i am even ok w the two tone...
the m3 idrive 8 setup on the other hand...
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So what happens to the Chinese car market if they hit a wall and have a huge financial crisis? Because that's probably going to happen. They're extremely over extended and Covid has caused unreliability in their manufacturing.
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I hate to play on the stereotype but I've seen it, I've witnessed it and I'm even friends with these type of people - there is no "daddy's car" that you would typically assume with Western cultures. Sure, these parents financed or funded these toys, but Daddy has his own car, and kids are given the money to go get their own car(s).
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I'll leave target markets and design language and different cultures out of this and simply say this; I don't ever want to drive this, but I do certainly want to be driven in it.
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Usually the question of BMW vs Merc is do you drive yourself or are you driven around? The S-Class always wins if you're driven around, until now - maybe the G70 will kick butt for being driver AND passenger focused. |
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Absolutely right!
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I am really liking the new look! Its aggressive and in the right direction for the 7 series. Im contemplating ordering the I7 now. Got the 2022 Audi RS7 as my second car.
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I'm thinking BMW sells perhaps 1,000 units a year in the US.
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not many, but not that few
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/bmw-7-...sales-figures/ Year sold 2005 18,165 2006 17,796 2007 14,777 2008 12,276 2009 9,254 2010 12,253 2011 11,299 2012 12,221 2013 10,932 2014 9,744 2015 9,292 2016 12,918 2017 9,276 2018 8,271 2019 8,823 2020 5,985 2021 7,705 2022 3,903 |
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Looks like 2019, pre pandemic, they sold about 8,800 in the US.
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Change is good- and it's aggressive in a way I wasn't ready for. But now I see why people like it. |
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