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07-17-2014, 07:06 AM | #67 | |
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BMW just did not want to release a further extended 7er. The 9er is an entirely individual concept that has been brought about because there are customers who want further exclusivity from BMW. Which was surprising to BMW that the brand can be stretched that far to build a car above the 7er. If the 9er becomes a reality you won't be able to buy from any BMW Dealer , it will follow Rolls-Royce and be built and specified to order.
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If the entire car inside and out doesn't look like the 9 Series concept floating around (goofle it now) then Fail.
The new S Class had its eyes set on Bentley and Rolls Royce per their design team and engineers. I'd say they're waaaaaaaay ahead of bimmer and Audi today. |
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07-27-2014, 08:47 AM | #71 | |
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As a BMW 7 Series owner, I like to drive my car and enjoy it. Today car are like cellular phone; technology. It is not just engine anymore, what kind of new technology can be offer; such as CF tube .... We like to change a new car. |
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07-29-2014, 10:07 AM | #72 | |
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and to think how sadly BMW finished; instead of making two versions of 3sedan (regular and the improved 4 Gran Coupe) they should concentrate on making one and that good; not to comment how badly was 3series GT executed (big potential-failed banana product). |
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07-30-2014, 09:21 PM | #73 |
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benz s-class takes home the cake-o.
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I agree with everyone on the interior lagging the s. I sat in a new s and was absolutely blown away at how nice the interior was. I feel with even significant refinement on the current photos it's not even going to come near the "wow" factor I felt with the s. I could care less about carbon fiber compared to nicer seats and other interior finishes. Make the cost of the vehicle a result of luxury, not strictly performance
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08-09-2014, 05:27 PM | #75 |
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You do realise the interior is not even finished but using current and prototype parts to resemble a dashboard as they are more focused in developing the chassis at this point.
The new 7er interior is heavily influenced by the Vision Future Luxury Concept and features the passenger iDrive screen showcased on the Concept as well as a wider central screen in the centre and within the drivers view. The 7ers bridge is to provide much minimalism as possible and Limit functions to the new generation of iDrive , Connected Drive , Augmented HUD and Voice command.
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Which is basically what everyone here is saying - that the design of the new 7 is extremely boring, mundane, and looks like a bottom rung 320i. Nobody here is talking about quality of materials, they are talking about the design, which looks like a complete failure for a $100k car. Everything BMW makes looks EXACTLY the same on the inside, and the interiors at this point are pretty dated. You buy a Merc, you get a different interior in every model.
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Sorry, but Mercedes flat-out outclassed you here, across the board: By the way, there's a power extending footrest on that rear seat too, hot stone massagers, and the doors and armrests are even heated in this car. Better luck next time, BMW. |
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08-10-2014, 07:33 AM | #77 | |
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Of course Mercedes had to progress after all their luxury brand Maybach failed against BMW's Rolls-Royce and they had to fill the gap whereas the S-Klasse is a sales success no one from Bentley or Rolls-Royce are "downsizing" its sales are due to people "upsizing". Since BMW rely on Rolls-Royce for the high end luxury market. A 7er and a Rolls-Royce cannot compete with each other. A Rolls interior is a stately home. The all new BMW 7er is more of a modern minimalist lounge.
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So now you are saying that the S competes with Rolls Royce?
Lol, tell that to the consumer, who sees a BMW flagship (7) and a Mercedes flagship (S), similar size, and similar price. I highly doubt anyone really cross shops a Rolls Royce with an S class. You can cry prototype all you want on the 7, but we all know it's going to look like the prototype. There is never and has never been a massive difference in design styling and feature styling between BMW's prototypes and their production versions. I guess a 320i is a "modern lounge" too, lol. |
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Mercedes say the S-Klasse competes with Rolls-Royce.
The S-Klasse and 7er have always been different. The S-Klasse is more to be driven with the owner in the rear being rejuvenated. The 7er is to be driven more by the owner , which is why the 7er has always been the dynamic choice.
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Speaking about the 3 series, its interior is far bellow the new C-Klasse. The 3 series feels like a stretched 1series, when you change the seats from it into the new Mercedes C.(too narrow and cramped, plus the interior is even bellow the new VW Passat-EU version). |
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Wait till the car is unveiled. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. If you're so madly in love with the new S-class, put your money where your mouth is and buy it. As far as I'm concerned I'm willing to give Scott a chance because he contributes more to these forums than you ever will. FWIW the interior design of the 6 series is very well executed and I'm sure BMW will do a better job for it's flagship. But yeah as always, 'haters gonna hate'. |
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All I mentioned was the interior finish is not final. And that there are prototype elements being used because the specifics are not necessary.
Believe it or not the finished car is more upscale than you think when the full detail is added. The added segment was to prove this is not the final result. And that additional detail will highlight the interior. And when the leather , metallic detail finish and passenger display is added it will look like what a 7er should be without encroaching on the stately-like interiors used to distinguish a Rolls-Royce from a BMW.
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Scott, are these the production tail lights and if so aren't they positioned lower than it appeared on your sketches? |
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09-03-2014, 04:08 PM | #88 | |
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If you look closer you can see the lights are at the top at the lid of the bootlid. And if you look down you can see the depth between the bumper and the bottom edge of the taillight to be very deep. As you can barely see where it meets the wheel arch. I am sure more pictures will come available soon, as the 5er and new MINI countryman are now arriving publicly on the roads of Munich.
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