2027 BMW 7-series

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by A_

We'll see. There isn't much room in the 7 G70 series for the same screen as in the new iX3, because the windscreen is close to the dashboard. There really isn't much space, but to find out, you have to sit in the car and check it out for yourself. Besides, all these screens will be close to the steering wheel anyway. In my opinion, the screen in the 7 Series LCI is different from the one in the 5 Series LCI.

From the spy shots it looks like the screen in the 7 is more of an actual pano "screen", than a narrow pano "HUD" like in the ix3. Looks closer to the cabin too. This also aligns with the leaks that the 7 will also have a passenger screen, which is basically the extension of the pano screen to the passenger side. I think it will look closer to the Lincoln Navigator screen.

While am not too excited for a design like this, am not concerned cause I am yet to see any bad BMW interior in the past 10 years or so. Even the current ix3, it's a good fit for the ix3 and same for 5. But for the 7, it must be different or it won't be good for the 7.

[RJH52]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

From the spy shots it looks like the screen in the 7 is more of an actual pano "screen", than a narrow pano "HUD" like in the ix3. Looks closer to the cabin too. This also aligns with the leaks that the 7 will also have a passenger screen, which is basically the extension of the pano screen to the passenger side. I think it will look closer to the Lincoln Navigator screen.

While am not too excited for a design like this, am not concerned cause I am yet to see any bad BMW interior in the past 10 years or so. Even the current ix3, it's a good fit for the ix3 and same for 5. But for the 7, it must be different or it won't be good for the 7.

Eh I just came out of the G60 5 series and while I liked the car it seemed like a step back from the previous gen. This is all personal opinion of course.

Recently got a new X7 and it?s quite a bit nicer as you would expect from the 5 but so is the X5 (basically the same as the X7).

My fear was the upcoming X7 was going to be similar to the iX3 and that just doesn?t do anything for me. At that point I?d be more inclined to save a little money and get a Toyota or Honda. I?m hoping the 7 isn?t the same but BMW seems to be moving down this minimalist direction and to me that takes away a lot of the luxury element such as leather design, actual buttons, curves with the dash, wood trim etc..

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by RJH52

Eh I just came out of the G60 5 series and while I liked the car it seemed like a step back from the previous gen. This is all personal opinion of course.

Recently got a new X7 and it?s quite a bit nicer as you would expect from the 5 but so is the X5 (basically the same as the X7).

My fear was the upcoming X7 was going to be similar to the iX3 and that just doesn?t do anything for me. At that point I?d be more inclined to save a little money and get a Toyota or Honda. I?m hoping the 7 isn?t the same but BMW seems to be moving down this minimalist direction and to me that takes away a lot of the luxury element such as leather design, actual buttons, curves with the dash, wood trim etc..

The upcoming X7 will also come with automatic doors (AND SOFT CLOSE IS THE STANDARD), as well as massage+ventilation for rear seats and rear seat entertainment, plus the new panoramic Vision, Augmented View, and AR glasses integration and passenger screen.
The current X7 is already an excellent SUV, and it will only get better in my view.

For the 7-series, I think the LCI 7 will be a success. The more spy shots I see, that more that I think the screen is more of a wide screen than a very narrow HUD like the 5.

[It's Good]

I pulled the trigger on a new S580.I'm actually kind of sick about it.I had the first allocation for the LCI at the dealership.But,I just can't do that without seeing and experiencing the car with the completely new and redesigned interior.The interior in the S is pretty sweet and they seemed to have improved build quality.I squeak tested some trim and the seats and console seemed solid.I really don't think I want my information in the line of sight to the road or blocking the view to the front of the car.Guess I'm old and a stick in the mud!The good news is Mercedes is offering a 13 month lease with no strings for those that may want to upgrade to the refreshed S.So I can reassess in a year and actually see the new 7&S designs.My BMW dealership and CA have been fantastic in that they are taking my 760i back 7 months early for what's owed.Good timing with the car just 20k serviced, an alignment,and 6k on tires.Plus, it's cherry.If you want to see the new car check out the '26 S580 review from Gold Pony.19" wheels not the greatest but,at this point,so what. Guess one acceleration run won't hurt it!This will even me out- 7 7 Series and 7 S Classes.

[RJH52]

I have a feeling it will be very similar to this:

[A_]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

The upcoming X7 will also come with automatic doors (AND SOFT CLOSE IS THE STANDARD), as well as massage+ventilation for rear seats and rear seat entertainment, plus the new panoramic Vision, Augmented View, and AR glasses integration and passenger screen.
The current X7 is already an excellent SUV, and it will only get better in my view.

For the 7-series, I think the LCI 7 will be a success. The more spy shots I see, that more that I think the screen is more of a wide screen than a very narrow HUD like the 5.

Other types of screens in the 7 Series may be due to the fact that the 7 Series has nothing to do with the Neue Klasse styling, which is reserved for cheaper models, including the 5 Series.

[A_]

Originally Posted by RJH52

I have a feeling it will be very similar to this:

I doubt it, because in the 7 Series, the windscreen is close to the steering wheel. There is no room for the same screen as in the iX3.

[SW17LS]

I think you're wishfully assuming lol. The current 5 and 7 are very similar layouts, I see no reason to believe they are going to be different. The new i3 also has the new layout.

I'm 99% confident we're going to have the slim readout right up at the base of the windshield above the steering wheel vs through it like we have now. They will reduce the height of the dash overall and the readout will be all the way forward by the windshield. Steering wheel will also be smaller and ovular

[A_]

Originally Posted by SW17LS

I think you're wishfully assuming lol. The current 5 and 7 are very similar layouts, I see no reason to believe they are going to be different. The new i3 also has the new layout.

I'm 99% confident we're going to have the slim readout right up at the base of the windshield above the steering wheel vs through it like we have now. They will reduce the height of the dash overall and the readout will be all the way forward by the windshield. Steering wheel will also be smaller and ovular

I remember you saying that the new S-Class would have a dashboard with a large screen like in GLC, which I actually liked, but it turned out to be a piece of crap. Thick bezels like tablets from 2008, no symmetry and chaos Three different screens. Unnecessary screen for passenger, and besides, it doesn't fit there.

[RJH52]

Originally Posted by A_

I remember you saying that the new S-Class would have a dashboard with a large screen like in GLC, which I actually liked, but it turned out to be a piece of crap. Thick bezels like tablets from 2008, no symmetry and chaos Three different screens. Unnecessary screen for passenger, and besides, it doesn't fit there.

You like the GLC interior more than the new S class interior shown?
To each their own of course but I actually really like the new S class interior. Although if able, I’d spec it without the passenger display and have it be wood trim…

[SW17LS]

Originally Posted by A_

I remember you saying that the new S-Class would have a dashboard with a large screen like in GLC, which I actually liked, but it turned out to be a piece of crap. Thick bezels like tablets from 2008, no symmetry and chaos Three different screens. Unnecessary screen for passenger, and besides, it doesn't fit there.

Yep, I was wrong. That is WAY better than the new BMW look interiors though IMO.

But, BMW is clearly adapting this same layout to all their cars, and the spy shots we've seen show the speedometer all the way up by the glass. Its going to be the same layout as all the others on the 7...

Originally Posted by RJH52

ou like the GLC interior more than the new S class interior shown?
To each their own of course but I actually really like the new S class interior. Although if able, I’d spec it without the passenger display and have it be wood trim…

I like it too. Unfortunately cannot be spec'ed without the passenger screen. I would just leave that screen off.

I just personally hate the moving of the speedometer readout and all to above the steering wheel. Gives me Prius, Tesla Model 3/Y vibes and I don't like it. That alone would sell me an MB over any BMW because the gauges are there behind the steering wheel like they should be.

Its a shame because my guess is the LCI 7 will solve my issues with it outside and create issues inside, where I love the current 7's interior and just don't care for the outside. On the S Class, I love the outside of mine but the inside I prefer the 7. They're going to do the opposite, I don't like all the stars and crap on the refresh S...but I love the inside.

So I'm going to be faced with the same choice I was last time just reversed.

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by A_

I remember you saying that the new S-Class would have a dashboard with a large screen like in GLC, which I actually liked, but it turned out to be a piece of crap. Thick bezels like tablets from 2008, no symmetry and chaos Three different screens. Unnecessary screen for passenger, and besides, it doesn't fit there.

The issue is not only the new design, the issue is that the facelift W223 dash is an old-carryover design from the 2021 EQS. Not only that the GLC has a “true full screen” layout, but the tech in the S-class (again and again) feels like 5- years old now when it was new in 2021 for the EQS. The current pre-facelift is at least 8-9 years old compared to the competition for 2026 model years, and the 2027 facelift now is also behind tech wise compared to everything I learned about the new dash and tech in the GLC. I think even the facelift GLS/GLE will have the newer/better tech as the GLC. It’s actually impressive just like the ix3. These two (ix3 and GLC) may not have the nicest layout, but they definitely have an impressive tech and great software implementation for the full-display layout. The mistake that Mbenz did again is that they showed no intention to equip the S-class with the latest and greatest technology, or even a proper dash without gaps. Even the passenger AC vent looks like a last-minute add-on that is physically separated (just like the EQS form 2021, exactly the same), wherein it looks better in the new/similar E-class as it looks integrated all together with the glass without a physical separation. Regardless, even without wood and luxury elements, it’s still better than the previous disappointing ipad layout. I was super excited to learn about the facelift, but it’s still not as good looking as the 7 form outside, and not competitive enough on the tech side either. No automatic doors although the Maybach had it in the rear. They also promised hands-free driving but it doesn’t seem to be available yet on year-1 launch, when the 7 had it now since 2023. Once Mbenz finally adds high-way hands-free via OTA, BMW would have in-town hands-free driving capability in the new 7 just like the current iX3. Just my guess.

Generally speaking, I agree with you, but I think the “piece of crap” comment is a bit too harsh just cause I never sat in the facelift yet, but I’d certainly describe the creaks in the pre-facelift as “a piece of crap”. It’s just like my current GLS, I like the versatility of the GLS, but would agree if anyone describes it as a “piece of crap” given the creaks… it’s the only reason that am trying hard to find something better before I get another GLS. In that case, not many options with similar cabin size (unlikes sedans, most other GLS options are either smaller or much much larger). Curious to know if the facelift s-class will address creaks and how panels are put together, cause that’s the only way I’d forgive them from the “piece of crap” description. Regardless, the boring exterior, and the new dash despite improvements, would still be a problem.

[A_]

Originally Posted by BMW5and7

The issue is not only the new design, the issue is that the facelift W223 dash is an old-carryover design from the 2021 EQS. Not only that the GLC has a “true full screen” layout, but the tech in the S-class (again and again) feels like 5- years old now when it was new in 2021 for the EQS. The current pre-facelift is at least 8-9 years old compared to the competition for 2026 model years, and the 2027 facelift now is also behind tech wise compared to everything I learned about the new dash and tech in the GLC. I think even the facelift GLS/GLE will have the newer/better tech as the GLC. It’s actually impressive just like the ix3. These two (ix3 and GLC) may not have the nicest layout, but they definitely have an impressive tech and great software implementation for the full-display layout. The mistake that Mbenz did again is that they showed no intention to equip the S-class with the latest and greatest technology, or even a proper dash without gaps. Even the passenger AC vent looks like a last-minute add-on that is physically separated (just like the EQS form 2021, exactly the same), wherein it looks better in the new/similar E-class as it looks integrated all together with the glass without a physical separation. Regardless, even without wood and luxury elements, it’s still better than the previous disappointing ipad layout. I was super excited to learn about the facelift, but it’s still not as good looking as the 7 form outside, and not competitive enough on the tech side either. No automatic doors although the Maybach had it in the rear. They also promised hands-free driving but it doesn’t seem to be available yet on year-1 launch, when the 7 had it now since 2023. Once Mbenz finally adds high-way hands-free via OTA, BMW would have in-town hands-free driving capability in the new 7 just like the current iX3. Just my guess.

Generally speaking, I agree with you, but I think the “piece of crap” comment is a bit too harsh just cause I never sat in the facelift yet, but I’d certainly describe the creaks in the pre-facelift as “a piece of crap”. It’s just like my current GLS, I like the versatility of the GLS, but would agree if anyone describes it as a “piece of crap” given the creaks… it’s the only reason that am trying hard to find something better before I get another GLS. In that case, not many options with similar cabin size (unlikes sedans, most other GLS options are either smaller or much much larger). Curious to know if the facelift s-class will address creaks and how panels are put together, cause that’s the only way I’d forgive them from the “piece of crap” description. Regardless, the boring exterior, and the new dash despite improvements, would still be a problem.

I am not that familiar with Mercedes' portfolio, I don't know all the SUV models, but I think Mercedes invests more in these cars than in the S-Class limousine because it sells more SUVs. The S-Class is selling much worse than expected. Here are a few links. It's not profitable for them to invest in a new dashboard. They decided to save money and moved the dashboard from the 2021 EQS model, which was designed 5 years ago

https://carbuzz.com/mercedes-benz-s-...car-king-2025/

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/commen...ause_of_lower/

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/commen...ss_sales_have/

[It's Good]

Took delivery of my S580 Saturday and I gotta say I'm liking it-a lot!Smooth,solid,and quiet.I really like the steering and brakes.Steering a little heavier with,it seems, a bit more feel.A lot of float in comfort but firms up some in sport and sport plus.Handles precisely with minimum roll at moderate speeds.Tracks beautifully with minimal corrections necessary.Stock sound system good.No hands free and a little goofy setting up the steering assist.Miss the power doors.MBUX system is intuitive and easy to navigate.Screen is easy to reach and not distractive.Driver's screen is conventional, easy to read and full of the usual info.Seats very comfortable.Ditching the runflats(will save) and replacing with the Pirelli P Zero A/S as on my 7.We'll see what the future holds.

[BMW5and7]

Originally Posted by A_

I am not that familiar with Mercedes' portfolio, I don't know all the SUV models, but I think Mercedes invests more in these cars than in the S-Class limousine because it sells more SUVs. The S-Class is selling much worse than expected. Here are a few links. It's not profitable for them to invest in a new dashboard. They decided to save money and moved the dashboard from the 2021 EQS model, which was designed 5 years ago

https://carbuzz.com/mercedes-benz-s-class-luxury-car-king-2025/

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/1f07cze/mercedes_cuts_sclass_production_because_of_lower/

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/1f0najn/any_realistic_ideas_as_to_why_s_class_sales_have/

I fully agree. Mbenz used to place the S right at the top of their priority (all new tech would first show up in the S, and all their R&D budget is more focused on the S than any other model). Not anymore nowadays. It’s always behind tech wise, and the plastic and how panels are put together is just as good or sometimes worse than other lower-end models.

[SW17LS]

Originally Posted by It's Good

Took delivery of my S580 Saturday and I gotta say I'm liking it-a lot!Smooth,solid,and quiet.I really like the steering and brakes.Steering a little heavier with,it seems, a bit more feel.A lot of float in comfort but firms up some in sport and sport plus.Handles precisely with minimum roll at moderate speeds.Tracks beautifully with minimal corrections necessary.Stock sound system good.No hands free and a little goofy setting up the steering assist.Miss the power doors.MBUX system is intuitive and easy to navigate.Screen is easy to reach and not distractive.Driver's screen is conventional, easy to read and full of the usual info.Seats very comfortable.Ditching the runflats(will save) and replacing with the Pirelli P Zero A/S as on my 7.We'll see what the future holds.

Ignore the haters here lol. People on here oddly enough give the S Class a lot of thought where on the S Class forums the 7 Series is really only discussed by people who have them. Reality is both the S Class and the 7 Series are great cars, you really can't go wrong with either one. Both have drawbacks, for the S Class the drawback is the polarizing interior layout and the interior build quality niggles that really shouldn't exist in a car of this caliber. For the 7 Series the drawback is the polarizing love it or hate it styling. Deciding between the two was seriously hard for me, but I am very happy with my S Class. Would have been very happy with the 7 too I'm sure. There's something about the S Class that just isn't replicated anywhere else IMO.

You touched on something that I too found in choosing between the two cars, the S Class is oddly enough the sportier, more dynamic car. I found the steering has more feel and the car feels more planted at highway speeds and has less body roll than the 760. i7 feels better at speed than the 760 IMO because of the weight

Are you on MBWorld?

[RJH52]

Originally Posted by SW17LS

Ignore the haters here lol. People on here oddly enough give the S Class a lot of thought where on the S Class forums the 7 Series is really only discussed by people who have them. Reality is both the S Class and the 7 Series are great cars, you really can't go wrong with either one. Both have drawbacks, for the S Class the drawback is the polarizing interior layout and the interior build quality niggles that really shouldn't exist in a car of this caliber. For the 7 Series the drawback is the polarizing love it or hate it styling. Deciding between the two was seriously hard for me, but I am very happy with my S Class. Would have been very happy with the 7 too I'm sure. There's something about the S Class that just isn't replicated anywhere else IMO.

You touched on something that I too found in choosing between the two cars, the S Class is oddly enough the sportier, more dynamic car. I found the steering has more feel and the car feels more planted at highway speeds and has less body roll than the 760. i7 feels better at speed than the 760 IMO because of the weight

Are you on MBWorld?

Well said!
I don’t understand how people hate on either of them. If one isn’t your cup of tea that’s fine but at the end of they day they are both great cars.

[A_]

Originally Posted by SW17LS

Ignore the haters here lol. People on here oddly enough give the S Class a lot of thought where on the S Class forums the 7 Series is really only discussed by people who have them. Reality is both the S Class and the 7 Series are great cars, you really can't go wrong with either one. Both have drawbacks, for the S Class the drawback is the polarizing interior layout and the interior build quality niggles that really shouldn't exist in a car of this caliber. For the 7 Series the drawback is the polarizing love it or hate it styling. Deciding between the two was seriously hard for me, but I am very happy with my S Class. Would have been very happy with the 7 too I'm sure. There's something about the S Class that just isn't replicated anywhere else IMO.

You touched on something that I too found in choosing between the two cars, the S Class is oddly enough the sportier, more dynamic car. I found the steering has more feel and the car feels more planted at highway speeds and has less body roll than the 760. i7 feels better at speed than the 760 IMO because of the weight

Are you on MBWorld?

If you want to praise the quality of the Mercedes interior or its driving characteristics and cornering, I suggest you start a new thread on the forum, because here we are discussing possible changes to the 7 Series from the 2027 model year

Personally, I don't feel the need to go on the Mercedes forum and praise BMW, because it doesn't make much sense.

[It's Good]

Originally Posted by A_

If you want to praise the quality of the Mercedes interior or its driving characteristics and cornering, I suggest you start a new thread on the forum, because here we are discussing possible changes to the 7 Series from the 2027 model year

Personally, I don't feel the need to go on the Mercedes forum and praise BMW, because it doesn't make much sense.

Easy friend.I'm now in an S580 precisely BECAUSE of the possible changes to the 7 series,primarily the proposed panoramic display for the interior.If you read my previous post from last week you would see I had angst in doing so.I loved my '25 760i with the autobahn package.I had an opportunity to make the switch with minimal financial impact and I took the chance.Also, BMW had just spent 7k in warranty work on the car and I didn't want more problems in my short time left with the car.In my post I'm expressing pleasant surprise in my experience so far.Thought the purpose of the forum is sharing info and experiences and that's what I was attemping to do.Sorry if it didn't fit in your box.Got no problem leaving this forum behind for a while.

[A_]

Originally Posted by It's Good

Easy friend.I'm now in an S580 precisely BECAUSE of the possible changes to the 7 series,primarily the proposed panoramic display for the interior.If you read my previous post from last week you would see I had angst in doing so.I loved my '25 760i with the autobahn package.I had an opportunity to make the switch with minimal financial impact and I took the chance.Also, BMW had just spent 7k in warranty work on the car and I didn't want more problems in my short time left with the car.In my post I'm expressing pleasant surprise in my experience so far.Thought the purpose of the forum is sharing info and experiences and that's what I was attemping to do.Sorry if it didn't fit in your box.Got no problem leaving this forum behind for a while.

I don't understand why you're responding to me when I didn't write to you. You're someone who had a Series 7 and an S-Class, and I understand that

[SW17LS]

Originally Posted by A_

If you want to praise the quality of the Mercedes interior or its driving characteristics and cornering, I suggest you start a new thread on the forum, because here we are discussing possible changes to the 7 Series from the 2027 model year

Personally, I don't feel the need to go on the Mercedes forum and praise BMW, because it doesn't make much sense.

You are one of the ones who brought the S Class up in this thread! Not me or 'It's Good'.

[Wolfman64]

Originally Posted by A_

If you want to praise the quality of the Mercedes interior or its driving characteristics and cornering, I suggest you start a new thread on the forum, because here we are discussing possible changes to the 7 Series from the 2027 model year

Personally, I don't feel the need to go on the Mercedes forum and praise BMW, because it doesn't make much sense.

So you mean we should delete any BMW 7 series threads in the S-Class forum there?

I think it's helpful to know what other brands bring to the table without talking everything else down. These are cross-shopped cars and comparisons help all.

The G70 7 is successful in sales. Not as successful as made out here on the forum but successful nonetheless.