F1 2021: Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina (Dec 12)

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Harlem(Haarlem capital of North Holland) , Bronx(more Scandinavian tbh, Jan van Bronk or Jonas Bronk?), Hoboken(Antwerp), Brooklyn(named after Breukelen near Utrecht)
The Dollar(Daalder/Thaler)

Brooklyn emblem:



Old Dutch: Eendracht maakt Macht: Unity is Strength.

Dutch place names in New York
› Battery Island (a batterij or battery of cannons was once stationed here)
› Beekman Street (Manhattan, after Willem Beekman)
› Bleecker Street (Manhattan, after the Bleecker family)
› Bowery Lane (Manhattan, Bouwerijlaan)
› Bronx (New York, after Jonas Bronck)
› Bridge street (Manhattan, after Brugstraat)
› Broadway (Manhattan, after Breede Wegh which means broad road)
› Brooklyn (New York, after Breukelen)
› Bushwick (Brooklyn, after Boswijk)
› Boerum Hill (Brooklyn, after the Boerum family)
› Coney Island (Brooklyn, after Konijneneiland which means Rabbit Island)
› Cornelia Street (Manhattan, after Cornelia Herring)
› Cortlandt Street (Manhattan, after Stephanus van Cortlandt)
› Dutch Kills (Queens, any local names ending in Kill are of Dutch origin)
› Dutch Street (Manhattan)
› Dyker Heights (Brooklyn)
› Flushing (Queens, after Vlissingen)
› Gansevoort Street (Manhattan, after Peter Gansevoort)
› Gerritsen Beach (Brooklyn, after Wolphert Gerritse)
› Gravesend (Brooklyn, after 's Gravesande)
› Greenwich Village (Manhattan, after Grenen wijk)
› Harlem (New York, after Haarlem)
› Hells Gate (New York, after Helle Gadt, referring to dangerous currents in the East River)
› Hempstead (New York, after Heemstede)
› Holland Tunnel, Holland Avenue
› Long Island (New York, after "Lange Eylandt" named by Adriaen Block, 1614)
› Minetta Lane (Manhattan, after Mintje Kill)
› Nassau Street (Manhattan)
› New Dorp (Staten Island, dorp means village)
› New Utrecht Avenue (Brooklyn)
› Rhode Island (after "Roodt eylandt" which means Red Island)
› Rikers Island (Queens, after Abraham Rikers)
› Schuylerville (Bronx, after the Schuyler family)
› Spuyten Duyvil Creek (after Spuitende Duivel or Spitting Devil, referring to dangerous currents)
› Staten Island (after Staten Generaal)
› Stuyvesant Street (Manhattan, after Peter Stuyvesant)
› Todt Hill (Staten Island, after Dodenheuvel which means hill of the dead)
› Vancouver (after George Vancouver, a descendent of the Dutch Van Coeverden nobility)
› Vandam Street (Manhattan)
› Wall Street (Manhattan, after the city wall around Nieuw-Amsterdam)
› Wyckoff Street (Brooklyn, after Pieter Claesen Wyckoff)
› Yonkers (after Jonker, Jonkheer and jonge Heer)

Cheers
Robin

It may be history news for someone in particular who is on Statin island.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by M2CS

Nothing about the end of the race was fair and square. In fact if the situation was reversed, you would be having the ultimate tantrum. Also, nothing on the Mercedes was questionable, you just struggle to accept losing in truly fair competitions yet you would happily accept victory in a rigged competition.

Here, this one will cheer you up mate

Cheers
Robin

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Here, this one will cheer you up mate

Cheers
Robin

Yes indeed this is the perfect 'same old' theme that never changes from them.
Wonder if yco will be coming on soon to say something.

[Robin_NL]

Masi is driving the NSX



Cheers
Robin

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Old Dutch: Eendracht maakt Macht: Unity is Strength.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

But you just questioned those same rules yourself....



Cheers
Robin

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Artemis

NICE! I already almost forgot that one lol.

The world's best professional driver still alive comes from Haguenau(France). Period.
The world's best drivers in general are from Scandinavia and South America. For decades and decades....

Here is a(nother) Belgian(Flemish) driver with some talent.

Cheers
Robin

[M Hybrid V8]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

If that was the SOLID case, Mercedes would go on and protest until the End of Days don't you think? If they were so sure about them being right...


I guess Mercedes is too afraid that if there are any investigations necessary they also will be questioned......

Cheers
Robin

No, the protest would harm Max if it was upheld and succeeded. The main target should be Masi, Max was simply the beneficiary of corruption but not the cause. FIA just put someone in charge of Masi to prevent him from repeating Abu Dhabi. The question that remains is, can Max win a championship without Masi's assistance?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Jiren

What a pile of crap. Being gifted a win via race fixing and violation of rules isnt outsmarting anyone. Maxipad got trounced in the race and was gifted a win via race fixing

Time for a repost:

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by M2CS

No, the protest would harm Max if it was upheld and succeeded. The main target should be Masi, Max was simply the beneficiary of corruption but not the cause. FIA just put someone in charge of Masi to prevent him from repeating Abu Dhabi. The question that remains is, can Max win a championship without Masi's assistance?

Take a look at the DNF @Silverstone '21 for example. Lewis only got a 10 sec penalty for almost killing Max. And being so proud after finishing 1st + 25 points vs Max zero.....

Karma strikes back.

Cheers
Robin

[FormulaMMM]

Hakkinen's comments worth reading in full https://instanceoforigin.com/blog/fo...D=CM0000095398

Was Race Director Michael Masi right to speed up the end of the Safety Car period, letting the cars between Max and Lewis unlap themselves and setting up a race over one lap?

I think it would have been much worse if this World Championship had finished behind a Safety Car. That really would have been such an anticlimax.

The Race Director’s decision, later supported by the four Stewards, is based on his understanding of the rules including his responsibility for deciding when the Safety Car returns to the pits. Balancing decisions between ensuring safety and promoting racing is the toughest job facing the Race Director.

Looking at the result, in terms of safety and promoting racing, Michael did his job. If Mercedes decides to protest the result of the race, and the World Championship for Drivers, the decisions which were made and the way the rules were applied will be examined in detail. I don’t believe the results will change.

[M Hybrid V8]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Take a look at the DNF @Silverstone '21 for example. Lewis only got a 10 sec penalty for almost killing Max. And being so proud after finishing 1st + 25 points vs Max zero.....

Karma strikes back.

Cheers
Robin

Max fans applaud his aggressive driving and attempts to cause contact as long as he gets the better of it. At Silverstone, he got the worst of it and you're sour that Lewis didn't allow Max to bully him in that moment. If you believe in Karma, Max has far more bad karma coming his way than Lewis.

If Max continues his ways of "either you yield or there will be contact", he'll continue to put himself in positions where he might get the worse of it have more trips into walls.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by M2CS

Max fans applaud his aggressive driving and attempts to cause contact as long as he gets the better of it. At Silverstone, he got the worst of it and you're sour that Lewis didn't allow Max to bully him in that moment. If you believe in Karma, Max has far more bad karma coming his way than Lewis.

If Max continues his ways of "either you yield or there will be contact", he'll continue to put himself in positions where he might get the worse of it have more trips into walls.

This is what you're saying all the time and the only person responsible for almost killing another driver this season is Lewis.....

Please put off your Mercedes fanboy glasses after '8 seasons' mate if you really think it's like that what you're stating above....


Anyway. We keep running around in circles. Live with it.

Thanks for contributing nontheless.

Cheers
Robin

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Here is a(nother) Belgian(Flemish) driver with some talent.

Best Belgian race driver ever was Jacky Ickx. Most versatile (24 hours of Le Mans, Formula 1, Can-Am, Paris-Dakar, etc.).

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Best Belgian race driver ever was Jacky Ickx. Most versatile (24 hours of Le Mans, Formula 1, Can-Am, Paris-Dakar, etc.).

I remember Tierry Boutsen too.

And Jacky's daughter Vanina

Cheers
Robin

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M2CS

Max fans applaud his aggressive driving and attempts to cause contact as long as he gets the better of it. At Silverstone, he got the worst of it and you're sour that Lewis didn't allow Max to bully him in that moment. If you believe in Karma, Max has far more bad karma coming his way than Lewis.
If Max continues his ways of "either you yield or there will be contact", he'll continue to put himself in positions where he might get the worse of it have more trips into walls.

An example: the famous 'Hamilton - Rosberg' crash (I was dumbfounded when I saw it happening live on TV):

Niki Lauda blamed Hamilton for that crash: see from 03:39 to 08:49:

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Artemis

An example: the famous 'Hamilton - Rosberg' crash (I was dumbfounded when I saw it happening live on TV):

Niki Lauda blamed Hamilton for that crash: see from 03:39 to 08:49:

Ham has in the past and even this past season had plenty of crashes and controversial calls. When he's under pressure, he make mistakes, get flustered, and generally will make moves similar to Max but then claim they are fair and OK but god forbid anyone else does it to him. I like to see hard-nosed racing but you can't take both sides of the coin.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

OT:

Staaten Eylandt (cf. Staaten Generaal) used to be part of Nieuw Nederland(t) aka Nova Belgica. Right next to the 'rabbit island' (Conyne Eylandt | Coney Island) and 'the long island' ('t Lange Eylandt | Long Island). Ancestors of Max Verstappen used to develop those places centuries ago...

Off-Topic (sorry Guys)
Yeah of course and the Belgian history is really 'interesting as well . But the name Belgica (now Belgium) comes from the Romans and before Belgica the name was 'Gallië (Gallia/Belgica )

It was in' +/- 50/58 'BC ('BC = before Christ) that Julius Caesar came with his Roman legions to conquer Gallië (Belgium)
What Caesar didn't knew was that 'Ambiorix the leader was of my today's place.
Caesar came here with 9 Roman legions , and 9 legions means 50000 soldiers .
50000 heavily Roman armed soldiers , this was the ultimate killer war machine !

BUT : 'Ambiorix kicked Caesar's A$$ here and Caesar's legions were here (at my place) slaughtered !
Of course the Roman legions returned but It took 8 years to take us completely down .
And finally you can guess what happened . Our soil was literally soaked with blood ! (our blood)
Let's keep in mind that the Roman legions (military) were the best ever in warfare !
My house is built on a hill of this battlefield , and the big Roman defense walls are still everywhere ...

I was really fascinated in the history of my place , and so I have send my personal DNA sample to 23andMe and they have checked my 23 pairs of chromosomes => https://www.23andme.com/en-int/

Surprise !
My DNA result was a big surprise to me . Probably .I'm one of the last of the Ambiorix DNA bloodline .

Pics of my place !

'Ambiorix and the big Roman defense walls ...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by StatenEye

Your response didn't make sense lol. You stated how you had to teach Americans.. I responded with how we have to teach Belgians that a Dutch person is not Belgian. Then i responded to your statement about Dutch people being aggressive with; I'm in NY, that's not considered aggressive. Here they would burn cars to celebrate lol. I don't do that though.

Anyway, in a nutshell; Max raced well all year as did Lewis. Its unfair to BOTH driver the championship was decided like that. I'm sure Max would rather have had a red flag with Lewis on Pole, both fresh tires with a 2 or 3 lap battle. The way this ended is unfair to both drivers to be honest. They deserved better

70 % of the Americans aren't aware that the Dutch and the Belgians speak the same language ..

Just to clarify the difference between the Dutch and the Belgians :
Nederlands (Dutch) is in my situation the language 'Flemish !
BUT !
In the part of Belgium where I live in , I have to speak 3 languages .

+ English , that makes 4 for me !

NO ! You still don't get it ...Isn't it ?

Carry on ...

[M5Rick]

That is so right

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Question to ponder - if the roles were reversed and Lewis was in P2 with fresh tires on the restart, would Max have let him overtake or would he have rammed him off the course?

Lewis = relentless
Max = ruthless

The answer is "who knows?"

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by StatenEye

Anyway, in a nutshell; Max raced well all year as did Lewis. Its unfair to BOTH driver the championship was decided like that. I'm sure Max would rather have had a red flag with Lewis on Pole, both fresh tires with a 2 or 3 lap battle. The way this ended is unfair to both drivers to be honest. They deserved better

• stronger and more recent (less races) Mercedes AMG engine + old hard tires + having the lead to start the final lap;
• less powerful and older (more races) Honda engine + fresh soft tires + trailing.

Verstappen did not crack under massive all-or-nothing pressure. With skill and guts - no crash. After the race Verstappen pointed out that he had driven the final lap with a very painful cramp torturing one of his legs.