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Year - 7 Series - S Class - % 7 to S '10 - 12252 - 13608 - 90% '11 - 11299 - 12258 - 92% '12 - 11098 - 11794 - 94% '13 - 10932 - 13303 - 82% '14 - 9744 - 25276 - 39% It seems that BMW did a pretty good job keeping up with the S Class until a couple of years ago. I'm thinking it held onto its more performance-oriented market. But it would seem that the new S has just overwhelmed the market. And I see nothing in the new 7 that changes this trend in any meaningful way. I wonder whether BMW got so scared off by the Bangle generation that they retreated into these very conservative designs (and we can see that the next-gen 5 will be a similar "same sausage, different sizes" style). It feels like BMW is just giving up. Very disappointing especially considering the BMW Vision Future Luxury teasers over the last couple of years.
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I think these leaked photos should never happen. It takes away from the final reveal of new products and causes distorted and unfavorable perceptions. Just my opinion. I guess only time will tell how great or good or mediocre or bad the new 7 series will be.
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I agree with all your points and I want to be hopeful. But it just feels as though both Merc and Audi are moving on, and that BMW has gotten mired in the mud. I'm probably too much of a BMW fan-boy to be objective, so I hope I'm very wrong.
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Wait for the official photos and go see the car in person before judging it
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It interests me when people talk about how this car will handle and drive.. 99.99% of the people that buy this car do it for the luxury, features, class, and sophistication it brings, not how it handles through corners. And besides, let not forget that MB has the S63 and 65 AMG, which will pretty much destroy any current 7 series model, including the Alpina. So the performance category which BMW usually rules is also out of the question.
But I agree with the above commenters who state that we should reserve judgement till the official unveiling.. even tho I'm not holding my breath.
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06-08-2015, 02:23 PM | #117 |
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I don't like the front end
Whats even worse, just to give an indication how "well" this was received by BMW shareholders, the german BMW stock lost more than 2.5% right after this leak today... |
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7 series article...I knew it would be a short time until someone pointed out how it doesn't compare to the S class.
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The new design just didn't go far enough for the exterior. This concept is radical and looks like the future. You know, sort of like the S class looks like...BUT NOW! |
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I saw the car in person when I was invited by BMW NA, and boy she's a looker upclose.
And the new tech is incredible, I was impressed overall.
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I'm a huge BMW Fanboy, but I just can't get behind this new 7. Its sooooo boring, and way too much chrome trim, seems gaudy and just to overthought/done. I'm hoping it looks better in person as most BMWs do now.
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Looks pretty ugly to me. Uglier than the current one.
Interior upgrade is evolutionary and not up to Mercedes level. Maybe it will look better with Ceramic controls and full Individual treatment.
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There is no doubt that the S class aims at luxury along with design which is their priority number 1 , while at BMW (7 series) their goal is different , more driver oriented and sporty cars even in uber luxury segment.
imo BMW doesn't care what you think of their design because they had time to observe the S class since 2013 and still they didn't make drastic changes like MB did with the S class..deign wise of course...lately bmw gets a lot of heat because of their design. The leaked images form 6 months ago set the wrong tone for this 7 series..should never have happened imo....I think that this new G11 is going to be a big step forward for BMW. |
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