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Some guys are happy because now they own a ///M car now, and other are hurt because they don't feel special anymore
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Why not get better sports cars? Been there done that. I actually do not own any M cars currently but facts are facts.
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First of all, I’m not a grown man. I’m pretty childish according to those who know me, and I don’t have unlimited funds. I need a sedan because I must transport tallish teenagers to swim practice, carry the occasional (Home Depot) load in the trunk, 4 tires and tools to the track, and humiliate a few of those RS drivers when I get there. If you know of a better “sports car” which can do all this, please point it out. In fairness, I’m pretty sure it won’t be an M340i, but I’m willing to be persuaded if it’s cheaper and does the same duty cycles...
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Is it retroactive?
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Love all the judgement sling'n from the cheap seats of the internet.
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01-16-2020, 06:54 PM | #182 |
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Not totally true, I got my car in August, we just learned of this yesterday and it doesn't change a thing for me. Life goes on as usual, checked my savings account and the balance is the same as it were the day before. Which is why i don't get the outrage from the other camp. They're the ones crying for something this silly.
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I'm sorry but your M340 did not undergo the same expansive R&D process the M division products do. You M performance guys keep trying to spin this into an ego/insecurity thing.
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01-16-2020, 06:58 PM | #184 |
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Or we could say the real M cars died with the high revving NA engine variants.
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This is nothing new. The Model selectors in the European websites have been configured this way for a while already: when you click on "M models", you get the entire list of cars that have ///M in their designation. ///Marketing at its best .
https://www.bmw.de/de/index.html
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If you mean retroactive, then yes. For example, the letters ZHP in my E46 330i ZHP were the German secret designation for the capital letter M. And when they created the E36 325is, I know for a fact that BMW had just run out of the M letters and substituted a lowercase "s".
They've since rectified all these minor anomalies.
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All things considered, it did get a pretty significant boost of 65 horsepower and shed half a second from its 0-60 time, compared to the f30 340i. I just don't think BMW should dilute its brand and call it by that beautiful letter we all love.
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Ok corporate M man. I just took a look at your profile lol, stick to the "news" section while I blow by your F80 👋🏼.
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We should all look at it as another option as opposed to the "M is best, and that's it" philosophy. I've owned both, and see both sides, this isn't such a big deal but the M fan club seems disgruntled about the gap getting filled by these new models If you remember when the m235i came out, the M2 was still a myth for NA. The m235i was all the rave by reviewers and enthusiast alike simply due to its interior size and near 50/50 weight, power and essentially E46 M3 chassis dimensions. There was no other M variant available yet (m550i was still in development) and no one barked at the fact that this non-M car was putting lengths on the 1M, and previous generations of M3's on track. Now that they've diluted a bit further with added variants, it seems like most are chalking these up as rebranded "m-sport" models, which simply they are not.
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To be fair, it's really Audi that started the ball with the dilution of the "S" designation.
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I also disagree that older M cars are for poor people. Most anyone can walk into a dealership and sign paperwork for a $900 lease with proof of income and mediocre credit. Not many people can hand over a $30k cashiers check for a 10 year old car. Nor can they stomach the absurd cost of maintenance. I'm 37, self-employed, bi-coastal (live in both Florida and California), and have the title to my car in a safe. Am I rich? No. Could I walk into a BMW dealership today and take my pick? Yes. What I'm getting at is, the type of people who simply point at an older car and blame it on lack of financial ability to procure a newer car just don't get it. Would you point at someone in an old Porsche 356 that he just bought at auction for $200k and write him off as being poor for driving an old car? Some M owners maintain their own cars, love a specific platform for a reason, care about heritage and legacy. They love driving a true motorsport-derived car, even if it means expensive maintenance, obsessive warm up routines, quirkiness they call "character", etc. I drive an E92 M3 because I love German V8s and I love the M3 heritage. I read about M history, enjoy wrenching on my own car (I pay a membership fee to access a lift I use regularly and do all of my own work, aside from rod bearings). Owning my M3 is expensive. And tedious. And time consuming. At times it's a downright hassle. But I do it enthusiastically, and it's rewarding. It's nice to know that badge is special. Not because I care what it means to others. But as a true car enthusiast from the age of like two years old, it's a badge of pride. It reminds me that I've subscribed to an entire ownership experience and not just something neat to get from point A to point B in. I guess badge/brand dilution doesn't really piss me off the way it does others, but it certainly doesn't help maintain the brand as a true enthusiasts brand, and my decision to drive the M3 I most desire is not reflective of what I can afford. It's reflective of how much I'm willing to participate in the ownership experience, and when I roll my eyes at non-M cars with M badges, it's is most certainly not rooted in narcissism.
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There's still a big difference between an M car and M performance cars. M performance may be getting close in straight line speed but there's more to an M car than just straight line performance. Are M performance great performing cars? Yes, absolutely. Are they M cars? Absolutely not!
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Scanning through this thread the non-M owners seem wayyyy more angry for some reason. I keep seeing the term "insecure" thrown around for some reason but perhaps it is just projection?
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