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      12-02-2023, 01:21 PM   #23
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Too bad the video did not show the truck doing truck stuff.
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I don't care if it's EV or ICE, I can't get past the design.
It looks like something a 12 yr old would draw when he's bored.
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I don't care if it's EV or ICE, I can't get past the design.
It looks like something a 12 yr old would draw when he's bored.
True, it looks like the future, but like a future I would have drawn back in the 70s, when I was a child. Maybe this is why the comparison with a DeLorian? Hope they do not share the same fate. And yes, you can put any EV on steroids by just adding up more and more of those battery cells, 1000 HP, 1500 HP, actually all possible. Let‘s wait how durable and reliable these tanks will be. Ironically, the Tesla model 3 was just classified to be the worst reliable car by German TÜV as it has the worst record for failing during technical check-ups of all car models they see. Coincidence, a common German car magazine just concluded that the BMW G80 was the best car they ever tested in a long-term (100k kilometers) reliability challenge. No any fails, repairs or flaws throughout the entire time-span. So I will stick with my BMW. If I ever have to switch to an EV, it will be BMW too.
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This is “green”? LOL
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Watched one review on Hagerty and it was paid advertising.

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Just to aggravate the Porche guys.

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Just to aggravate the Porche guys.

That's cute thanks for sharing this garbage

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Just to aggravate the Porche guys.

TIL EVs can be fast. Next you’re going to be telling me they make a sedan that’s faster than a 911 too.
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What a stupid vehicle. A 3080kg (6800lb) vehicle that accelerates like a sports car. It’s going to be bought by people that aren’t car people with near zero driving skill. What could possibly go wrong?
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This is “green”? LOL

Likely still greener than an ICE vehicle. And how often does that really happen?

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Man, that is such a hard sell on the EV industry's part, you have no idea.
“We” have no idea? No idea about what? Please tell us, how much time do you have with a modern EV?
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A 123KWh battery pack and an optional range extender battery pack (40kWh)?
These will require enough mineral mining and water to refine those minerals plus the prerequisite transportation that will make a Hummer look eco friendly. Come on guys stop the "we are saving the planet crap". Your not and most intelligent folks know it by now. There are many reasons to buy a EV but that is not one of them.

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A 123KWh battery pack and an optional range extender battery pack (40kWh)?
These will require enough mineral mining and water to refine those minerals plus the prerequisite transportation that will make a Hummer look eco friendly. Come on guys stop the "we are saving the planet crap". Your not and most intelligent folks know it by now. There are many reasons to buy a EV but that is not one of them.

The sheep don't know the Wolves don't want to know.
Please show me who here is using the "we are saving the planet crap"? I don't even recall seeing anything about "saving the planet" on any of those cybertruck infomercials.

You are just like those hippies blocking the highways... no one gives a shit what they are protesting about just GTFO. You go on every EV thread making a million posts about how bad they are for the environment or whatever... no one cares. You don't like it? Don't buy it.
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Please show me who here is using the "we are saving the planet crap"? I don't even recall seeing anything about "saving the planet" on any of those cybertruck infomercials.
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Likely still greener than an ICE vehicle. And how often does that really happen?
There are zillions of similar references
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You don't like it? Don't buy it.
Maybe you have noticed we are being forced to pay for the development, use and soon we will be required to purchase EV's. Otherwise we wouldn't give a dam what anyone drives.

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True, it looks like the future, but like a future I would have drawn back in the 70s, when I was a child.
Funny you should say that, I was a kid myself in the 70's and like all the other boys in my class, we thought we were budding car designers.
We would endlessly draw futuristic cars that looked very much like this Tesla pick up.
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I watched hagerty, carwow,Top gear. All of them gushing and giggling around mostly about 0-60 times. I was getting the want factor
Then saw this guy absolutely dismantling the hype and he made sense.

https://youtu.be/qQx3_aCWQsU?si=WoxzpPcM55-fXTRj
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Funny you should say that, I was a kid myself in the 70's and like all the other boys in my class, we thought we were budding car designers.
We would endlessly draw futuristic cars that looked very much like this Tesla pick up.
That's not very good selling point. Truck that kid in the 70s came up with
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Maybe you have noticed we are being forced to pay for the development, use and soon we will be required to purchase EV's. Otherwise we wouldn't give a dam what anyone drives.
First part yes, second part isn't happening and when it doesn't I'm sure it will all be thanks to your amazing spam posts on every single EV thread. Thank you for single handedly saving ICE!

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I watched hagerty, carwow,Top gear. All of them gushing and giggling around mostly about 0-60 times. I was getting the want factor
Then saw this guy absolutely dismantling the hype and he made sense.

https://youtu.be/qQx3_aCWQsU?si=WoxzpPcM55-fXTRj
Duude... can this guy be anymore freaking obnoxious duuuudde!!! Duudde this is what I imagine everyone in the "still want an EV thread sounds like". No way I could sit through 17 minutes of this duudes talking head.

However I did try skimming through to see what his counter points were. He had none. Just general anti EV hate crap, not green, running out of resources, Elon sucks etc... again nothing specific to this vehicle. The only point I heard him make which was legit is that specs are not what was promised 4 years ago. True. It's more expensive and has less range. Could have been a 1 minute video.
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I will admit it is cool that they are doing something different...

Now with that being said -

If the point of this is to truly be a pickup -

1) what is its payload and towing capacity? how does this hold up in terms of range?
2) The 240 mile range one is out the window for just about everyone... so that leaves a minimum price of $80k... that gets you a brand new F250 if you really need a pickup.
3) The fast 1/4 mile - who needs this in a pickup? What use will this have?
4) Will the range be as promised? No one knows.
5) WTF is with how small that bed is?

I think again another Tesla gimmick for those that want to be cool... but this misses the entire point of a truck.
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I will admit it is cool that they are doing something different...

Now with that being said -

If the point of this is to truly be a pickup -

1) what is its payload and towing capacity? how does this hold up in terms of range?
2) The 240 mile range one is out the window for just about everyone... so that leaves a minimum price of $80k... that gets you a brand new F250 if you really need a pickup.
3) The fast 1/4 mile - who needs this in a pickup? What use will this have?
4) Will the range be as promised? No one knows.
5) WTF is with how small that bed is?

I think again another Tesla gimmick for those that want to be cool... but this misses the entire point of a truck.
I don't think anyone who needs a "real" truck would even be considering ANY EV right now. That being said....

1. According to Tesla 2,500lbs payload and 11,000lbs towing. That's better than most loaded F150s, at least on the payload, which is typically what matters most when towing.

2. I agree. No one is towing long range with this or any EV. Even if you wanted to deal with the hassle of supercharging on the road you would have to unhitch just to charge.

3. You don't need it in any vehicle... but I'm not gonna turn it down.

4. As with all EVs those are probably EPA estimates or whatever. Real world range is aways less. Towing I would imagine half the range.

5. Specs say 6x4. Considering the most common bed size on the F150 is 6.5 I don't think it's that small. I think the reason it's smaller is they wanted it to fit in a garage. Not sure if it does or not.
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Likely still greener than an ICE vehicle. And how often does that really happen?



“We” have no idea? No idea about what? Please tell us, how much time do you have with a modern EV?
I've driven the Volt, Bolt, and Mach E. I've been in both the Model Y and Model 3 for over an hour each (the Model 3's back seat is the worst seat I've ever sat in - and I'm known for doing 8-hour days on a motorcycle). 40 minutes to recharge to 180 miles is a joke.

Trying to power a car/truck with a giant battery is not the correct use of the EV drivetrain; it's stupid actually. If the entire industry wasn't massively legislated by and funded by Government, it would have never gotten off the ground. You can try to debate that all you want (we have a thread on it already) but you can't win the argument. The only reason EV exist is because CARB in 1990 declared California was not going to have gasoline cars sometime in the future; it's been a legislated forcing function ever since. Easily provable.
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Duude... can this guy be anymore freaking obnoxious duuuudde!!! Duudde this is what I imagine everyone in the "still want an EV thread sounds like". No way I could sit through 17 minutes of this duudes talking head.

However I did try skimming through to see what his counter points were. He had none. Just general anti EV hate crap, not green, running out of resources, Elon sucks etc... again nothing specific to this vehicle. The only point I heard him make which was legit is that specs are not what was promised 4 years ago. True. It's more expensive and has less range. Could have been a 1 minute video.
Listening fully to an alternative POV can be ok.
After watching 2 hours of one POV (hagerty,carwow,top gear etc) I'm glad i did spend 17 minutes on this video. I found it very informative. It was specific to the vehicle too.
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