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12-15-2016, 07:54 AM | #1 |
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Small RWD, non-luxury sedan?
I wish GM (or anyone for that matter) would build a small (relatively speaking), non-luxury, RWD sedan. They simply don't exist and that's a shame.
FWIW, this discussion spun off from this thread: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1334761 We veered off topic so, I broke it out to a separate thread. |
12-15-2016, 09:05 AM | #2 |
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Agreed. An E46 sized (and weight) rwd sedan with three pedals would make anyone a ton of money. But no one makes one. Better to have a f'ing X2 and some GT turds.
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12-15-2016, 09:43 AM | #3 | |
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Because no one would buy it, or at least not enough to pay for the R&D. All people buy these days is stupid SUVs. |
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They already make models that would be perfect platforms for the oh so slight mods that would be required to huck the existing engine, transmission and pedals into...... It would cost virtually nothing to do |
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GM has been making RWD vehicles for like 70+ years
Its not like they dont have lots of options.......including the existing corvette that they could transplant into most anything they wanted Lets not pretend that this is a difficult thing to do or that GM has to create anything from scratch here |
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One of the things I'd iike to see is an AWD capable vehicle that is optionally AWD and primarily RWD The transfer cases are already there....its just a matter of enabling/disabling where the power is going |
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12-15-2016, 11:24 AM | #10 |
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Dont you think you're over estimating the challenge?
Third party companies design and build suspension/chassis upgrades for vehicles all the time Its not like this is really a difficult problem that there arent donor vehicles already set up to handle this http://www.cadillac.com/sedans/ats-sedan.html Shoving the majority of the drive train from a vette into an ATS would be a very interesting upgrade |
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12-15-2016, 01:12 PM | #12 | |
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Now if they made it a Chevy (or even a Buick) instead - i.e. more of "pony sedan" and less a luxury vehicle - then perhaps there's the business case. That's what I'd like to see too. But for whatever reason, nobody builds one. |
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12-15-2016, 01:14 PM | #13 | |
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I didnt say I was interesting in purchasing a 70k GM product If I had 70k to spend on a car it sure as shit wouldnt be a GM product That doesnt mean it wouldnt be an interesting car to have a CTS/CTS-V driven by a Corvette engine |
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I think an engine with forced induction would be just fine though. How about a supercharged version of the 5.3L L83 currently used in the Silverado? The smaller displacement would distinguish it from the LT4 used in the CTS-V (as well as the Corvette Z06 and Camaro ZL1). |
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12-15-2016, 04:16 PM | #18 |
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Nearly nobody needs RWD, it's an enthusiast only thing in passenger cars and more enthusiasts than would admit don't "need" it either. FWD is also less expensive, so....done.
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Funny you mention that, because they really don't. The car's FADEC will retard power until the engine's warm (can't really keep idiots from abusing the car cold anyway) and and drivers only need an idiot light / message to know when things overheat. People don't watch the gage anyway. If you track the car you can hook up an android or whatever and get all that info plus more.
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12-15-2016, 05:26 PM | #22 |
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Toyota could do one on the FRS platform.
Or the current IS, for that matter. Ford could base one on the Mustang. GM could base one on the Camaro. FCA could base one on the Challenger. Oh yeah - they did (okay, the sedan came first...) But it didn't turn out small, is way too heavy and either wallowy or stiff and why would you want it? Nissan was considering a little "2-door sedan" a couple years back - but wanted to put in too small an engine, and saw no market. Whenever I start to think one of these sounds like a good idea, I realize I'd be more likely to pick up a used BMW. Which I did!
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