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I have seen racism on this forum many times, as well as got myself engaged beyond comfort in the conversations. If I see something, I tend to say something. Sometimes too much, sometimes too little. I can't really comment on the exact exchange here but I can say that I have read comments (not from you I believe) about the new 7 series that are to racism what smoke is to a gun.
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Not liking a design is perfectly fine. Not liking a design and attributing it to Chinese tastes is...you know what. They want to say the Chinese are tacky and showy, which is...you know what. Fact is, there are no more "showy" elements on a G70 than an S-Class, A8, etc..maybe someone can get out a measuring tool and measure the chrome or light reflection lol |
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That particular two-tone color and dark wheels sure don't do the new 7 Series any favors.
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There an awful lot of hate here for the G70. Not on my part, though I likely won't get one until next year. My G12 lease is up end of October and I will likely buy it and order a new one for delivery in the Spring. With long trips in the schedule, an i7 does not make sense -- yet. But a 760 does appeal to me. I'm not thrilled with the grill but I don't look at the grill when I'm driving, and the rest of the car is a nice evolution from the G12.
Car designs are like car colors. Different strokes for different folks. If you hate the design, nobody is forcing you to buy and there is plenty of competition and I would be the last one to pass judgement on anyone. When the Bangle butt first arrived, it sent me to Mercedes for a few years, so I get it.
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1. SUVs take the pie any day over sedans 2. Declining relative position compared to other markets The Asian market is 3X those numbers here but also has the trend of SUVs. I'd be curious to see how sales are going there for 7 series and Sedan vs SUV. I'm somewhat certain it looks very different from this. And that brings us back to the whole reason of which main consumer research is driving the development of individual models. As the head of design at BMW stated: The 7 series is developed with the Chinese consumer in mind and I would venture a guess it'll be *very* successful there. I'm sure the US will continue to see declining sedan sales.
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The SUV craze has existed since the 00s though. Today the S-Class globally outsells the 7 3:1 globally CMIIW, can you find US numbers?
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"Deliveries of the Mercedes-Benz S-Class rose by 40% to 87,064 units, with sales in China accounting for 35.5% of global demand" "Mercedes-Maybach sales increased to 15,730 units (+50.7%), boosted by China" Anything luxury is really horded by the Chinese, not just 7s. |
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While I am not a fan of the Bangle 7, it is to this day the best selling 7 series of all time, easily outselling my favorite the E38.
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If you look at the chart, though S class has always outseold the 7, the S class is in a decline versus 7 more recently.
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The tables I included on previous posts say the 7 is getting mugged March 2022 S Class sold 1734 7 sold 539 The ratio holds consistently globally. The 7 clearly needs to do something different - hello G70! |
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The G11 it replaced was definitely a more competitive car. It had new technologies, an athletic build, a prestigious appearance. Now the technologies have decreased, a giant screen has been placed at the back, the car has become bulky. It will be easy bait for the S class.
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