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      01-17-2020, 09:03 AM   #375
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Sigh...I'm surprised it took 18 pages to reach this point..
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As Jeremy Clarkson said about the e92 335i.....'all you are saying is that you can't afford an M3'. True then, true today.

BMW continue to cheapen the ///M badge, a race to the bottom.
I miss Jeremy Clarkson. In regard to your assertion though, one argument that comes up a lot is that a well optioned G20 M340i costs too close to a base F80/82. That challenges the point you're trying to make.

If we decide to ignore that inconvenient counter point though, and further apply your logic, we can also conclude that a BMW M* driver simply can't afford a real luxury sports car like a Porsche.
Bada-Boom!!!

Excellent response Fuller!
It's funny how you talk about egos and Metal objects and you agree to this? Lmao

Inconvenient counterpoint? Already owned 2 Porsches amongst other cars. Childish arguments.
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      01-17-2020, 09:10 AM   #378
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If we decide to ignore that inconvenient counter point though, and further apply your logic, we can also conclude that a BMW M* driver simply can't afford a real luxury sports car like a Porsche.[/QUOTE]

In my case...absolutely!! A Porsche 911 is simply higher up the food chain.
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You're blind, reread again, M340i owners are laughing, why would i be mad, what is there for me to be offended by? It was called in the second post that the real M guys will be outraged. I was enjoying my car from August when i took delivery. Show we where you see me or any M340i owner angry, what would I be angry about? I just find it comical and ridiculous at the outrage of something so silly.

edit. Some F80 guys are outraged, which we all knew from the moment OP made the announcement.
Which F80 guys are outraged? I'm confused. Why would they be? The difference between an M340i and an F80 is night and day. This is all just for a title and that's it.
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If we decide to ignore that inconvenient counter point though, and further apply your logic, we can also conclude that a BMW M* driver simply can't afford a real luxury sports car like a Porsche.
In my case...absolutely!! A Porsche 911 is simply higher up the food chain.[/QUOTE]

You are just adding to all of the childish comments in this thread. It's embarrassing for everyone honestly.
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I bought an x2 m35i because it ticked the boxes I wanted: small, fast, decent utility. If it was called the x2 35i that would not have mattered one bit. Do I feel it has been breathed on by the m guys? Hell yes.
1) 80hp more than stock
2) damn near 15” brakes
3) lsd
4) downright nasty exhaust note
5) tons of boost
6) handles like a dream
7) extremely comfortable and grippy seats particular to the car

I drove an x1 for 3 years prior and this car does everything better, hell even highway fuel economy. It certainly is not just a step up in trim, it’s a different animal.

Call it whatever you want, I wanted a hot hatch and Bmw created this magnificent bastard and I love it.

Only blind bias and stupid pride can keep you from seeing it.

And yes, I have driven m4, m5, m850i, m340i, m240i cars as well.
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Not trying to bash anyone for what they drive or what they like, but we all are here because we enjoy this brand and the vehicles M or not. I've driven both sides for some time and enjoyed them both, the WBS cars have a different flavor compared to the WBA which I think are way more comfortable and still fun but I will choose an M3 over an M340i any day its personal opinion and what you like and what you're looking for, I commute long distances and could have easily chosen an M3/4/2 but did what made sense to me, stick with what you enjoy.
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As Jeremy Clarkson said about the e92 335i.....'all you are saying is that you can't afford an M3'. True then, true today.

BMW continue to cheapen the ///M badge, a race to the bottom.
I miss Jeremy Clarkson. In regard to your assertion though, one argument that comes up a lot is that a well optioned G20 M340i costs too close to a base F80/82. That challenges the point you're trying to make.

If we decide to ignore that inconvenient counter point though, and further apply your logic, we can also conclude that a BMW M* driver simply can't afford a real luxury sports car like a Porsche.
Bada-Boom!!!

Excellent response Fuller!
It's funny how you talk about egos and Metal objects and you agree to this? Lmao

Inconvenient counterpoint? Already owned 2 Porsches amongst other cars. Childish arguments.
Live and let live. If there are perceived "lesser" //Ms out there doesn't diminish the enjoyment of your "pure breed" M one bit.
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I bought an x2 m35i because it ticked the boxes I wanted: small, fast, decent utility. If it was called the x2 35i that would not have mattered one bit. Do I feel it has been breathed on by the m guys? Hell yes.
1) 80hp more than stock
2) damn near 15” brakes
3) lsd
4) downright nasty exhaust note
5) tons of boost
6) handles like a dream
7) extremely comfortable and grippy seats particular to the car

I drove an x1 for 3 years prior and this car does everything better, hell even highway fuel economy. It certainly is not just a step up in trim, it’s a different animal.

Call it whatever you want, I wanted a hot hatch and Bmw created this magnificent bastard and I love it.

Only blind bias and stupid pride can keep you from seeing it.

And yes, I have driven m4, m5, m850i, m340i, m240i cars as well.
Enjoy it, definitely a beast.
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Bro. Calm the F down. Facts are facts. M performance cars are not M cars. Fact. Go read up on it, enlighten yourself.

Oh now I get why you're getting so worked up. You bought an M performance model thinking it was an M car. 😀😀😀😂😂😂

My oh my I guess you never graduated grade school or learned english comprehension.

Im not your bro...and im not upset BMW made their decision, you are.

Your opinion is not a fact no matter how loud you scream and throw your hands in the air. I dont need to read up on anything, the first post that started this thread is right there if you could read and comprehend. BMW made this decision, thats the only relevant fact.

Lots of keyboards warriors when they are protected behind a screen.

Im not worked up, this is comedic gold getting you wannabes all worked up cause my M performance vehicle offends you poor little ego.

Yes I have an ///M35 now as anyone can see, coming from an F80 as you can read up on if it matters to you so much. And and S85 E63 as if it has any relevance to you or this discussion as my m cred I wont bring up any other brands as its none of your biz.

But it always returns to ego and insecurity in yourself that causes you to believe your opinion is a fact.

Im always glad to meet face to face and discuss like a man. Then we can see who says what.
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I certainly hope that a person driving an M340i does not tell others it's an 'M' car - it's not.

The nameplate on my M3 doesn't say made by BMW, instead states GmBH M or something akin to acknowledging made by the M division and not the regular factory.

People if you want an M car, buy one with true pedigree - M and then a 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 - even a M850 is questionable

Nah, I don't at least, but the m340i is a great daily driver car. My M6 is a beast, just like my others.
Very true (I've owned both) however my window sticker did say the percentage made in Deutschland and it was almost entirely
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At this point might as well throw an "M" on every car...
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Geez, who cares?? I drove a Porsche 911, then traded it for what I considered a better drive, a Cayman. Then I needed a usable backseat (the reason to pick BMW over Porsche,) so I got a 135i, which, with the right mods, I’d still take over any current M or Porsche model.

Sometimes these threads read more like fashion enthusiast forums, rather than driving enthusiast forums.

p.s. BMW started making “M performance” type cars decades ago with the M535i.
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My oh my I guess you never graduated grade school or learned english comprehension.

Im not your bro...and im not upset BMW made their decision, you are.

Your opinion is not a fact no matter how loud you scream and throw your hands in the air. I dont need to read up on anything, the first post that started this thread is right there if you could read and comprehend. BMW made this decision, thats the only relevant fact.

Lots of keyboards warriors when they are protected behind a screen.

Im not worked up, this is comedic gold getting you wannabes all worked up cause my M performance vehicle offends you poor little ego.

Yes I have an ///M35 now as anyone can see, coming from an F80 as you can read up on if it matters to you so much. And and S85 E63 as if it has any relevance to you or this discussion as my m cred I wont bring up any other brands as its none of your biz.

But it always returns to ego and insecurity in yourself that causes you to believe your opinion is a fact.

Im always glad to meet face to face and discuss like a man. Then we can see who says what.
Lol. Look at all my posts. Not once did I say anything that suggests that I am upset. Why would I be? Go re-read your post. Attacking my education or comprehension skills? Whose being a keyboard warrior? hmmmm

https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/all-models.html

Look how they separate the models.

EXPERIENCE THE BMW M AUTOMOBILES. All true M cars are listed then at the bottom.

More outstanding power. All the M performance models.

Like I said, I am talking facts. It's still facts even though you may not like it or agree to it.

Oh and I apologize for calling you Bro... Lol... " I am not your Bro" WTF calm down man. It's just cars.
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Someone mentioned biermann early on. Hyundai created their n division and built a pretty awesome car and have already committed to watering down the name with n line components. I guess that’s just the way it is now. Somehow the alphabet is just becoming letters again.
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What is the difference? Most people never knew that an M235i or whatever was designated "M Performance" anyway.
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I've had 6 Ms over the years.

I drive a fabulous M2 now.

I had an F80 M3.

Had an opportunity to test drive the G20 M340i, and it was a beast. Better in every way than my old F80. Steering, torque, sound, handling, etc.

What does that suggest? That the next M3 will be even more spectacular.

As M technology drifts down to "regular" BMWs, including M "performance" cars, that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
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This thread is ridiculous. People should just get the car that fits their wants and needs rather than worrying about what other people have.
A M340i can still be a M car and not have the highest performance in the 3 series class. The M division can have different tiers of M cars if they decide that's the direction they want to go.
If anything at least less people will stop putting fake badges on their cars, haha.
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Damn very unfortunate. I wanted a M4 next but now what's the point. All the cars are M cars lmao.
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I drive an X5M. Well. It's an X5 M Sport. But I say the "M" part loudly, and mumble the "Sport" portion very quietly.
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