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[dbs600]

Any updates on the class action lawsuit anyone?

Anyone been in contact with the attorneys?

Thanks!

[dbs600]

Any updates anyone?

Things should've progressed, right?

Please advise.

Thanks.

[dbs600]

Hello everyone,

Hope all is well.

Service appointment scheduled Tuesday and some insight before my visit would be helpful.

The last work done to my engine was replacement of some injectors this past January.

My car has since been calling for oil frequently, this past interval being a mere 655 miles.

Some questions:

1. What’s the current procedure for the dealer to determine what the problem is? Is this something that will need multiple visits, where they top off oil and wait for me to return with the same problem? I’d like to get down to the problem now if possible, as I, myself, have been topping off oil upon the car’s request.

2. Does the car save / catalog each time it’s requested additional oil? How does it save this information; date, time, mileage? If so, shouldn’t this be sufficient for the dealer to see that the car has been demanding oil on a regular basis vs. my having to return to the dealer again in the future?

3. What could the possible causes be? I don’t see oil stains on the ground of where I park. Valve stems? What work is needed to replace same? A major job? Is BMW covering the costs at all?

Always thought I was immune to this problem, but now an issue. I’ve also always gotten horrendous mileage, around and below 10 mpg’s. Never complained of same, but my 200 or so mile range is getting to me. Any thoughts on same would also be helpful.

Thank you very much!

[dbs600]

My N63 is at the dealer having its valve stem seals replaced.

At approximately 60k miles, this is a $8k+ job (covered under extended warranty).

Anyone know why the valve stem seals go bad on the N63?

Should I anticipate failure again in the future, or are new, improved parts now used?

Thanks.

[ApFiore]

Hello all, does this same issue/fix apply to the n63 TU engine as well? I’m having the same issues with my 2013 F01 40k miles. Just out of warranty and dealer is saying half of my injectors need replacing.

[TKR]

Originally Posted by dbs600

My N63 is at the dealer having its valve stem seals replaced.

At approximately 60k miles, this is a $8k+ job (covered under extended warranty).

Anyone know why the valve stem seals go bad on the N63?

Should I anticipate failure again in the future, or are new, improved parts now used?

Thanks.

Valve stem seals get toasted and hardened because the heat that turbos in this "hot vee valley" produce. Its a design flaw in first generation N63O0.

Same burning and hardening happens to all rubber and every gasket near turbos sooner or later in that engine. Its a tight package with insufficient cooling.

Yes, the new seals are improved and different part number. They should tolerate heat better.

[TKR]

Posted my timelapse video of seal replacement in N63O0 engine in X5 e70 forum.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...php?p=12372400

[dbs600]

Any updates on proposed settlement terms or when claims filings begin? Thanks.

[MYN63X5]

Hey Everyone, been browsing the forum for a while, but just registered as a member today. I did so because of this posting right here. I just purchased a 2011 BMW X5 xDrive50i and have had a few bumps in the road since I got her. One month into it, it wouldn't start for like 30 mins and when it did every dash alarm possible was on. Turned out to be Low Pressure Fuel pump. And if it wasn't me being pissed off and making it an issue with the stealership I would have had to pay for it, but I didn't. All was well all about a month ago. It went into Limp mode and threw codes showing cylinders 5 and 6 misfiring. Changed out the Spark plugs and the Coil Packs for the affected cylinders but did not fix the issue. So the only thing I can think of, and the suggestion of the stealership service advisor was the fuel injectors. Upon which they quoted me close to $3k for the repair!! Then today I saw this post about the BMW Service Bulletin (B001314) that speaks directly to this issue and that it should be covered. I called BMW and all they tell me is there are no Active Recalls for my vehicle. But did admit that there could be Serve Bulletins out there for my X5 but they couldn't confirm that unless I bring the X5 into them.
So Monday I will bring her into them and let them do what they need to do to verify the service bulletin, and I will ask if there are any others that would apply and to have that work too. SOOOO THANK YOU FOR THIS POSTING!!! I hope it makes the difference between breaking the bank and getting it fixed for free.

Anyone know of any other Service Bulletins that may apply to my X5?

[facteryfmf]

Welp,

I'm just another owner at a loss.

Recently bought the 2011 Alpina B7xi in 3/19 with 79k. Took it in for oil change. Dealer says excessive oil usage and we'll do all the seals blah blah blah. I ask about the customer care package after doing some research while they have my car torn apart for 3 weeks. They say all 8 injectors were done at 60k miles in 9/17.

Car throws a code every once in a while when I got it back. Took it right back told me one bad coil on cylinder 1 and it'll be $375. I throw a fit it ran fine for 300 miles before I took it to have the motor torn apart. No chance. Had to pay to have it fixed.

Now, here I am 13 months later, 3700 miles later with a blown engine. They tell me two injectors failed and I drove it 13 miles with the check engine light on and it washed cylinders 1 and 3 and locked up the crank. They want 52k to fix the motor and BMWNA has come back and offered 12k off and the dealer offered 10k off for a total of 30k to fix it now.

Has anyone had to go as far as hiring a lawyer yet. I cant believe after 3700 miles I have a complete paper weight in my driveway worth absolutely nothing.

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by facteryfmf

Welp,

I'm just another owner at a loss.

Recently bought the 2011 Alpina B7xi in 3/19 with 79k. Took it in for oil change. Dealer says excessive oil usage and we'll do all the seals blah blah blah. I ask about the customer care package after doing some research while they have my car torn apart for 3 weeks. They say all 8 injectors were done at 60k miles in 9/17.

Car throws a code every once in a while when I got it back. Took it right back told me one bad coil on cylinder 1 and it'll be $375. I throw a fit it ran fine for 300 miles before I took it to have the motor torn apart. No chance. Had to pay to have it fixed.

Now, here I am 13 months later, 3700 miles later with a blown engine. They tell me two injectors failed and I drove it 13 miles with the check engine light on and it washed cylinders 1 and 3 and locked up the crank. They want 52k to fix the motor and BMWNA has come back and offered 12k off and the dealer offered 10k off for a total of 30k to fix it now.

Has anyone had to go as far as hiring a lawyer yet. I cant believe after 3700 miles I have a complete paper weight in my driveway worth absolutely nothing.

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FCK!!!!!!

[eliom70]

Does anyone know about problems with the N63TU? I have a 2013 F02 and the engine locked up and am out of warranty. I was told the timing chain shattered with no warning. The car has ALWAYS been serviced by the dealer since new and no one else. Any thoughts???

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by eliom70

Does anyone know about problems with the N63TU? I have a 2013 F02 and the engine locked up and am out of warranty. I was told the timing chain shattered with no warning. The car has ALWAYS been serviced by the dealer since new and no one else. Any thoughts???

Wooooooow.....

[facteryfmf]

Cant even get a call back from BMWNA on my car. Its truly unbelievable. They wont stand behind their injectors after 23k miles.

[facteryfmf]

She just sits with a blown motor

[eliom70]

Exactly where I left her at the dealer

[J.E]

So facteryfmf and eliom70 any updates?

[TXSTYLE]

I too was wondering if any movement from BMW NA has happened on these last couple of cases posted here?

[eliom70]

No Update so far. The dealer told me they were getting BMW cooperate involved to send a tech to help download whatever info off the master to see what was deleted and might tear apart the engine to see 1st hand what happened to it.

[facteryfmf]

Originally Posted by J.E

So facteryfmf and eliom70 any updates?

They told me that they would fix the motor for 32k after discount. Apparently I'm just SOL. Car just sits with a blown motor. I'm out of options at this point.

[eliom70]

Well for the time being I gave up on BMWNA!!! I am replacing The engine for a littLe over $8000 with a new out of the box same as mine engine from BMW. So far the first engine that was installed ran for about 2 days then IT LOCKED UP. GREATTTT!!!!! This week the second NEW ENGINE from BMW will be installed. We don't know yet what happened to the 1st new engine. The original engine in my car for some reason not specified blew the timing chain therefore locking up the engine. I will keep everyone posted on what happened to the 1st replacement motor and go from there. Hope to have the car back by the end of the week if nothing happens to the 2nd replacement motor FROM BMW!!!!

[jarpil]

Today I got an email from our SA.

"Sorry for the delay in getting this over to you. The following are the recommended repairs we need to perform on your vehicle before we can continue with the oil consumption testing on your BMW X6 as per BMW NA’s response to the case we submitted on your behalf.
Misfires on multiple cylinders.
Recommend replacing all 8 ignition coils with factory updated coils and spark plugs (fouled due to excessive fuel) $1,229.00
Black Smoke from the tail pipe on acceleration.
Recommend replacing all 8 fuel injectors due to them leaking. $4,418.00
As for other components that will need to be addressed but not as a part of the diagnostics side of things is as follows.
Replacement of all 4 crank case vent lines (cracked or broken) $950.00
Replacement of all turbo coolant lines due to leaking coolant. $2,516.00
These repairs will probably be cheaper to do when making repairs under the class action but I did want to bring them to your attention.
Please let me know how you would like to proceed or if you have any further questions.

IMHO all this should be covered under the N63 Customer Care Package.
I did not think this is going to be easy as far as having BMW stop the excessive engine oil leak but this is getting ridiculous.
Any ideas?